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welcome back my friends back to the

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midnight hour

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i'm happy to say that some of you may

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actually be listening to the midnight

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hour at the midnight hour imagine that

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for our premiere of our exclusive

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interview with steven bassett of the

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paradigm research group

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this man has been on the front lines of

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the so-called disclosure movement since

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its inception

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have there really been attempts by

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people inside the deep state

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or the united states government to

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actually push

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make

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ufo disclosure and alien visitation

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disclosure actually happen

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you're going to be surprised

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about the amount of evidence that people

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inside the government have tried to push

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the government into disclosing what they

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know about ufos

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and aliens and about an apparent

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extraterrestrial presence that our

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government has known about for quite

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some time

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now this sounds like the start of a good

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science fiction movie

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but i gotta tell you folks there's

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plenty of meat on the bones and there

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have been people at the forefront of

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this movement for quite some time and my

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guest tonight

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steven bassett of the paradigm research

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group has been on those front lines

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since the beginning

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and i gotta tell you

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listen to a few of his lectures

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on youtube

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just google

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stephen bassett lecturer

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and i gotta tell you you better buckle

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up because

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man is it a bumpy ride he's got a lot of

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things to say about disclosure and about

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what may happen and about

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government people that have pushed for

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disclosure and he's got the inside track

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and he always has the inside track on

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this subject for many years now he has

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been on the trail of this thing he's

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been on the forefront of this thing and

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first of all i want to thank him for

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that because that's a crazy mission that

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i can't imagine

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trying to undertake

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but he's done this with courage and with

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intelligence and with integrity

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over many years

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and he keeps at it and i gotta tell you

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that i admire his perseverance

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if nothing else

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so ladies and gentlemen if you want to

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ufo and alien visitation disclosure is

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it really happening is it coming

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because there's some great evidence

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that there's some drip drip form of

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disclosure and they're getting us ready

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for a big announcement that's what a lot

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and like i said our guest tonight has

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been on the forefront of this thing

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to try to push our government into

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there's a lot of secrets in there and he

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knows a lot of them and i'm hoping that

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tonight he just may share

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some of those secrets with me and with

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my friends and my listeners

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now friends without any further ado

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we have steven bassett of the paradigm

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research group

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standing by on the mystery phone

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let's get into it

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when did you start your research group

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why did you feel that that was so

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important to dedicate your life to

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emerges sometimes organically and you

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don't anticipate it but

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i i set up a

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paradigm research group

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as a lobbying

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entity in late 1996

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on the fall of 96.

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but this is after i spent four months

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volunteering with john max organization

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that was the program for extraordinary

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experience research pier

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this was a very interesting time

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but it really wasn't a fit for me and i

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was thrilled to have my first engagement

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of this formal engagement of the issue

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be with john contact research work there

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um but it wasn't a fit for me it's very

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academic setting and that's

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i had to decide what to do next and it

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just came to me one one day in the

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office i was sitting there trying to

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decide what am i gonna do i've gotta

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pretty much move on here shortly and

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then it just there it was i lived in

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washington off and on for years my

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family had family that goes back there

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i knew washington well

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the key the key point that i that i had

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come to understand was that the the the

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problem with the extraterrestrial issue

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was not science it was politics there

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had been enough signs to prove it many

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times over enough evidence it wasn't

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resolved because there was a political

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decision on the part of the government

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that it would not be resolved

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that it would be embargoed

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it would be suppressed and so the

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solution was a political solution

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therefore let's engage it politically

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how would you do that well one good

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simple way which is easy and doesn't

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cost anything is to register as a

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the moment that thought came in my mind

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it occurred to me that probably nobody

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had ever done that

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and that was true

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so i needed to get myself down to

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washington and register as a lobbyist

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in case somebody else beat me to it

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and uh so i got down there i arrived on

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july the 4th believe it or not 1996.

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that seems shortly yeah it is fitting

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and shortly thereafter i've registered

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as a lobbyist as the first person to do

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so that that registration was picked up

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by the news people the washington post

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interviewed me and off i went so it was

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it was it was a really wonderful coming

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together of instinct and circumstance

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my connection to washington that led me

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to be the first lobbyist finally about a

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year and a half ago a year ago the

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second one finally registered and that's

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chase klotzky oh that was going to be my

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next question are you still the only one

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or is there another now no longer chase

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klosky was number two

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i only took 20 some years 20.

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maybe you can gang up on some of these

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senators and things i guess

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i anticipate working work with her when

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i get back to washington later this year

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yes oh well that's good to hear

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and i guess the the next question i i

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really want to talk to you in depth if

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possible about the rockefeller

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initiative because for people who aren't

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really aware of some of this history

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it's kind of mind-blowing that that that

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even happened or almost happened can you

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because i i've heard you speak about

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this in detail about what was the

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rockefeller initiative

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and and what happened with that

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uh by the way for your listeners almost

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everything we're talking about you can

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find a lot of material my website which

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is paradigm

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researchgroup.org or just google my name

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steven bassett comes right up yeah and

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you've also got some excellent excellent

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talks about all these subjects on

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youtube you just search paradigm

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research group or stephen bassett

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lecture on youtube and you'll find a

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wealth of information more than we could

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yeah and i have a channel of course

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paradigm research group where a great

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deal of this and more very soon has been

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consolidated so there's like hundreds of

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history of the disclosure process of

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principal barrier to a political

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the military intelligence community and

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the political uh power structure was not

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extraterrestrial issue not while there

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were tens of thousands of nuclear

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weapons on a immediate alert that if

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launched would have destroyed basically

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it was just too big a variable

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security matter and you combine that

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politics and economics and what have you

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thought maybe it was time for the people

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to know the truth one of those was

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lawrence rockefeller billionaire

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who uh had been involved in issues like

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had supported people like john mack and

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like the not the black sheep family but

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he made the decision whoever won that

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election in 1992 he was going to

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in a concerted effort to convince

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whoever the president was to release all

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the truth embargo because if you

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actually released all the files

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uh meaning declassified all the files in

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the government archives regarding the

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phenomena going back to the 40s

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it would be the end of the embargo it'd

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be over

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that's what he wanted he wanted

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disclosure that term was not in play yet

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i helped to bring that out later

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uh and make that term stick but

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he he made that decision and so he

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approached the clinton administration

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with a faxed uh request through his

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attorney henry diamond on march 29 1993

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about

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uh two months after clinton had taken

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office

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very very quickly

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and thus began the rockefeller

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initiative which uh clinton was kind of

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forced to

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entertain uh because uh rockefeller was

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a big donor to the democratic national

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committee and other democratic

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candidates

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they knew him it wasn't like they could

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tell him to pounce in but clinton

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really came into washington as a out of

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nowhere governor of arkansas with no

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military intelligence connections

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not a lot of political clout had some

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popularity

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but the military intelligence complex

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wanted nothing to do with them so it

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wasn't going to be easy for him to

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engage the issue but he's the one that

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won if bush had won

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uh he would have he would have

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approached bush and frankly if bush had

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won i think we'd had disclosure

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uh in the 1990s uh under a bush

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administration yeah because he had and

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he he was in bed with the intelligence

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community being a former cia director

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right

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he was more than in bed he would they

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were married they're living together

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uh

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and he was highly respected and so

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it would have been a much more

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comfortable enterprise under a bush

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administration but it was clinton

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so this re this this initiative lasted

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for three years and was wrapped up in

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october of 96.

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uh clinton was stonewalled without

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question by his own administration

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he got angry

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he forced them to try to do some things

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but ultimately

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uh he he couldn't get it done but

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nevertheless

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a lot of very significant important

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people were connected to this initiative

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who would continue to be employed

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politically for the next 25 years and

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that is bill clinton as the ex-president

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hillary clinton as a senator

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uh a uh

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uh secretary of state candidate twice

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for president leon panetta who would

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become secretary of defense and and see

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and uh um

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see what was the other thing he was

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might have been cia director i think it

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was uh john podesta political operative

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al gore knew about it

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george stephanopoulos knew about it but

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he and he when he went into media but

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and and and and all the time he's been

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in

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a news big shot he's never addressed the

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issue which is something i'd like to ask

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him face to face one day

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uh webster hubble and others

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these people were not going to go away

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and they they knew about this initiative

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they knew about the stonewalling and

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they made the decision when as clinton

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is running for his second term

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uh with scandals at his door that okay

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it didn't work let us never talk about

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this again

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until

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it's appropriate for us to do so meaning

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one of us is president

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gore just missed clinton just missed

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uh twice uh

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and as a result

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this connection to the et issue which

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begins

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about by by a significant political team

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the clinton team which begins with the

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rockefeller initiative march 1993

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finally becomes a significant

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matter in the 2016 election and so

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there is a through line all the way from

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the rockefeller initiative to

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the 2016 election which i am extremely

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familiar with and in due course i'm

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going to write a book about

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uh from my perspective

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uh if i can ever

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sit down and sit still yeah you're a

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guy so it's not easy for me

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well so that's a short answer to your

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question

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in regard to the 2016 election like you

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mentioned john podesta and there's

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there's there's wikileaks emails where

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he's like talking about ufos still and

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he has that famous tweet where he said

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something like i wasn't able to force

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disclosure

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it was one of his regrets

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oh yeah that was pr that was me that was

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prg behind all that uh that story is not

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well known but it will get known because

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there's several

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profiles in significant publications i

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think coming

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about all that and prg

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though it'll be later this year august

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september

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but uh

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i

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goal

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to force the et issue to explode into

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this huge expensive campaign

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because one hillary clinton was the

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leading candidate to win the presidency

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into the rockefeller initiative

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connection the whole clinton et

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connection

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which had been covered and was kind of

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known but they had managed to stay away

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from it in any way that was significant

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but now under those conditions we

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thought we could force it we did

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we force the issue out hundreds of

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articles were written and there was so

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much pressure on the clinton team

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that members of that team including

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president clinton hillary clinton john

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podesta even barack obama

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had to give controlled

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limited hangout statements about the et

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issue which generated even more press

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uh and got a lot of people's attention

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uh i didn't hurt her in in her campaign

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i don't think it cost her a single vote

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might even got her votes

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and that was that was my work i was

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working with my publicist in washington

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for two solid years and we had we had

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hoped that the debates

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it would get into the debates

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but the the presidential bait system is

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awfully is terrible it's corrupt it's

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awful

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and uh a waste of time at the very least

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they were entertaining this time around

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that's for sure

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yeah entertaining as far as helping

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america advance its interest not really

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yeah so yeah and because the entire

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debate

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moderating teams never asked a single

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e.t question in spite of articles all

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over the world on the subject of clinton

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and et's

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she was able to pretty much get through

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it and then they never they never spoke

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again after june uh two of 2016 and then

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uh the public learned about more about

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this connection when the wikileaks

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emails were released but i got to tell

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you i was on there i was on that thing

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typing in search

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you know search queries as soon as it

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was up and uh i found some of that stuff

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earlier than most people and i was

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shocked and amazed by what they were

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talking about in some of those emails

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certainly at my website in the blog

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section disclosure wire blog

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i've actually got

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uh all all 95

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of the

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emails in the podesta file with an et

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reference

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are

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and links to the actual email

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in the wikileaks files so

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uh people can go and look at them all

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the most important thing that emerged

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out of that was the the fact that the to

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the stars uh academy people

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eventually it was announced in 2017 that

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tom delong

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representing that project had already

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approached the podesta uh the clinton

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administration through podesta

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because they they were pretty sure

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clinton was going to win and so that

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came out

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uh thus increasing the connection

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uh but again that did not cost her the

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election

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if she had embraced the e.t issue and

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and her connection to it

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and really shaking the trees yeah that

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might have put it over the top it would

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have won in the white house i can i

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would be happy to debate any member of

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the clinton team

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in any uh decent public forum

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that that simple question

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had you spoken truth to power on the e.t

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issue in that election would it hurt you

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or helped you and i i i would be very

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persuasive that it would have won her

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the white house

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yeah now you mentioned

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to the stars academy i've got a lot of

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listeners that wanted me to ask you

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specifically about them because even

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people that are intensely interested in

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these subjects

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i don't want to say they're extremely

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distrustful let's just say they're

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distrustful of this to the stars academy

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initiative

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you know i hear a lot of things mostly

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because it's like a poor

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for-profit kind of thing with them and

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he's also

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sort of uh

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i guess kind of like

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just kind of stalled you know they made

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a lot of promises and then and then it

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seems like if there is anything coming

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from them it's just a such a slow drip

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drip

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uh what do you think

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about them and then the other reason

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that people distrust them is because of

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the number of people that are in that

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organization that are former

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intelligence members and what are you

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what is your take on them

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it's understandable that

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most people simply don't know enough

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about it

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to

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[Music]

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arrive at the understanding that i have

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but i get that first of all

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the

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structure in america have earned massive

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distrust from the american people

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the lies the bad wars the whole nine

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yards uh

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trust in government

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trust in the congress

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uh is extraordinarily low and the trust

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in media has dropped off

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but let's just talk about the military

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intelligence complex and so not

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surprisingly anything that's going to

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emerge out of there is going to be

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viewed with distrust i fully expect that

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as far as the fact that part of the to

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the stars academy's launch was

573
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:00,080
a public service corporation so they

574
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:02,720
could raise money to do what they do

575
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:04,159
what can i say

576
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:05,039
you've got

577
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:12,159
uh

578
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:13,520
and

579
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:14,480
they are

580
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,520
um

581
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,039
uh

582
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,520
space

583
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:22,080
as as as for-profit companies and people

584
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:23,760
are loving it

585
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,880
so

586
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,720
that's just a it to me that's a moot

587
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:27,600
point

588
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,280
uh

589
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:32,000
when it comes to the et issue in general

590
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,600
uh the the truth embargo and the

591
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,520
suppression has been has made it nearly

592
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,520
impossible to raise money

593
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,679
for this uh and which is what you have

594
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,840
to do whether you're a non-profit or

595
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:43,360
well if you're a nonprofit certainly to

596
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:45,039
raise money

597
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:46,559
the government's lied about it for 70

598
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,400
years people are scared of the issue so

599
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:50,480
you can't raise money so if if you can

600
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,919
turn it into a

601
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,280
a

602
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,640
for-profit

603
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:56,080
uh public service company where people

604
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,440
can actually make some money from it

605
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,960
that may bring some money in it did it

606
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,720
brought two and a half million

607
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,400
uh but one of the ways the government

608
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,159
has maintained the truth embargo is to

609
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:06,720
try to shame people if you talk about it

610
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,520
shame if you try to study it shame if

611
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,600
you bring it up in a university shame if

612
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,039
you try to get money to do what you're

613
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,280
doing shame if you do anything to make

614
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,600
money or make it a profit thing shame

615
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:19,520
this is this is crap

616
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:22,159
this is the government which has got so

617
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,120
many much shame to account for i mean it

618
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:27,120
will take the rest of this century the

619
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,600
united states government to account for

620
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:31,039
all the things that it has done for

621
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,000
which it should be shamed so i have zero

622
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:36,720
sympathy for that um

623
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:39,840
and i hope they raise another 25 million

624
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,000
uh i kind of leave them off the hook of

625
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,480
the of the money personally i do a lot

626
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:46,559
of people don't but like you know money

627
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,840
makes the world go round if you're going

628
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,039
to do anything you're going to need

629
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,520
money but i think money it's about what

630
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,360
you do with it yeah but you know what i

631
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,880
mean i mean money moves mountains and if

632
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,720
you're going to go on this huge mission

633
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:58,559
you're going to need funding even if

634
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,600
just for

635
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:01,520
apparently they have metal samples and

636
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,240
some other things and and that is very

637
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,960
costly to get the you know the analysis

638
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:08,880
done on on that kind of stuff to study

639
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,200
the materials so i give them a pass on

640
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:13,679
the money personally but i am extremely

641
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,600
distrustful of anybody that's a former

642
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,960
intelligence

643
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,720
community members saying we're going to

644
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,039
bring you disclosure because they're not

645
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:22,480
what they've said well they haven't said

646
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:27,990
let me let me just turn that around

647
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,960
and you have people that worked

648
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:32,880
at the highest level of the department

649
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,440
of defense and the cia

650
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:37,520
and even at skunk works but working

651
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,400
under

652
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,640
high security clearances that have made

653
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,000
very good money in their life that

654
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,720
they're not wealthy

655
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:45,600
and

656
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,490
they sign up on a public project

657
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:49,679
[Music]

658
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:51,440
which is an interactive project with the

659
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:53,440
military intelligence complex in which

660
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,360
information is going to be released

661
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:57,840
without breaking any laws

662
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,279
through this organization to the public

663
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,360
uh and people think

664
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,440
well that's easy

665
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,760
uh no

666
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,520
they they they don't need that every one

667
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:11,600
of those people could be making very

668
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,480
large sums of money doing standard stuff

669
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,320
or working in additional classified

670
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:18,480
projects as contractors they could be

671
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,440
making

672
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,520
oh god i can't even imagine how many

673
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:24,000
times much more money they have they

674
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,880
have

675
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:26,960
given up huge financial opportunities

676
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,000
and put themselves at risk

677
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,919
uh and put them made themselves

678
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:33,600
vulnerable to attacks from all sides

679
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,830
and so the idea that oh wow this is some

680
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,520
clever agenda

681
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,679
uh and they can't be trusted these are

682
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,600
the people you can trust the ones you

683
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:48,080
can't trust are the ones right down in

684
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:49,360
south america right now trying to

685
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:52,080
overthrow the venezuelan government

686
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,799
so

687
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,960
again this this stems from a fundamental

688
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,640
distrust look

689
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:58,159
the american the united states

690
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,679
government led us into the war in

691
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,640
vietnam which was a complete catastrophe

692
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,400
the united states government's political

693
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,559
class lend leidus into a war in iraq

694
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,720
which will also be made through a bigger

695
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,039
catastrophe than vietnam

696
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,679
and so uh

697
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:15,120
i

698
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,960
uh

699
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,600
there is plenty of reason to be angry

700
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,679
and distrustful of the government but

701
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,919
those were about lies those were about

702
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,080
misrepresentations those are about the

703
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:30,000
abuse of secrecy these people have come

704
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,600
out in the open

705
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,200
they're using their names they're

706
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:35,919
telling us what they're doing and so

707
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,520
i'm sorry for those who just trust them

708
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:39,679
i get it my answer to my my statement to

709
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:42,960
them is get over it now the second point

710
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:45,840
involving what they've been doing

711
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,799
uh

712
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,200
i'm going to give you my assessment

713
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:51,200
i don't have documents to prove this and

714
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:52,799
i'm not having direct conversations with

715
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:55,120
anybody in ttsaas

716
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,080
but

717
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,240
uh the plan

718
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,600
i believe

719
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,400
was to put that project together

720
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:04,640
because they saw the writing on the wall

721
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:05,440
they

722
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:09,120
likely going to disclose when she got to

723
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,640
the white house they knew about her e.t

724
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,799
connection going all the way back to 93

725
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,159
they were aware of all the things that

726
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,320
podesta had said over the years they're

727
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,000
seeing all these articles turning out in

728
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,399
major newspapers and then she's they see

729
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,399
her and her husband and podesta talking

730
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,320
about the e.t issue and controlled

731
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,039
circumstances and it looked like pretty

732
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,919
much it was the ball game the marathon

733
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,760
was about to be over and they had a real

734
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,600
problem in that they were going to be

735
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,440
holding the ball they were going to be

736
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:37,520
held are actually holding the bag

737
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,320
uh

738
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,640
the politicians might disclose the e.t

739
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,679
presence

740
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,520
they might get the pentagon to go along

741
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,799
with it but

742
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:45,760
they were going to then blame the

743
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,919
pentagon blame the military intelligence

744
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:50,159
complex or all the all the embargo and

745
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,120
all the years and all the

746
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:53,360
misrepresentations wasn't us they made

747
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,840
us do it and these people don't

748
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,440
see themselves that way they don't see

749
00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,840
themselves as lackeys or enemies of the

750
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,840
state they see themselves as national

751
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,360
security defenders of the nation which

752
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,039
they've done a pretty good job

753
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:07,760
uh with the odd exception of getting in

754
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:08,880
but remember

755
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,600
when we go to vietnam and we go to iraq

756
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:14,399
it's not the dod taking us there it's

757
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,039
the political class taking us there

758
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,080
all right the dod did not force the

759
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,080
american people into that war that was a

760
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,760
trick played on us by george bush and

761
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:26,240
dick cheney so again their job is to

762
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,840
follow orders and defend the country

763
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,720
they've done an incredible job of that

764
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:32,559
and they've been abused by the political

765
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,880
class far too many times let's hope that

766
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:36,080
changes

767
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:41,269
when

768
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,200
they see what's coming down i think they

769
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,880
made the decision they need to put a

770
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:46,559
project together

771
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:47,440
and

772
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:49,120
they needed somebody to front it that

773
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,480
wasn't a member of the military

774
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:52,559
intelligence community because it would

775
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:55,600
have been a lot more difficult if the uh

776
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:57,679
to the stars academy had announced and

777
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,080
launched itself and had say louis

778
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,039
elizondo is the uh the the the

779
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,919
the head of the operation the ceo

780
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,679
uh because he was obviously 30-year

781
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,039
career until

782
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:11,919
and so it turned out that tom de long

783
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,240
had been approaching people for some

784
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,520
time for years with his ideas about

785
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:19,200
getting this out and having them

786
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:20,559
participate having the military

787
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:23,919
intelligence complex be a a proactive

788
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:26,559
participant in the disclosure process

789
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:29,120
and he had lots of money and he's very

790
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,559
knowledgeable about the subject and i

791
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,000
think they decided fine let's let's

792
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:33,840
let's have tom be the ceo

793
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,000
and so i think the plan was them to uh

794
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,720
build a program together hint about it

795
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:43,039
which they did a couple of times but not

796
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,279
beyond just some basics

797
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:47,039
and then once clinton won the election

798
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,640
launch of the to the stars academy in

799
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:50,480
the late november

800
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,000
of 2016 during the transition before she

801
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,919
became president

802
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,440
thus they would have been out in front

803
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,799
of the issue

804
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,320
and already making probably they would

805
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,640
have already generated those two huge

806
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,399
new york times articles

807
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,240
and when clinton gets in

808
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,399
they're ready to help her out and and if

809
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:11,039
the dod uh uh comes along and clinton

810
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,320
discloses

811
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:14,480
everybody wins

812
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,360
but when the the clinton ema when the uh

813
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,919
the podesta emails sort of

814
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,080
got dumped early that created a problem

815
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:24,159
for them it was uh not supposed to

816
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,120
happen

817
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,120
and then when she loses the election it

818
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,520
blows everything sky high

819
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:30,559
and so

820
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,440
uh

821
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,520
most people though didn't know this this

822
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:35,600
was not this was not a complaint of the

823
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:38,000
general public this was a problem for

824
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:39,520
people like me who knew what was going

825
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:40,480
on

826
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,520
it blew their uh project up

827
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,080
uh which i knew was coming and it blew

828
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:47,840
my work up okay

829
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:51,279
so it took them 11 months to regroup

830
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,000
and decide how

831
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,080
uh to

832
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,480
launch the the to the stars academy or

833
00:31:01,190 --> 00:31:00,159
not they could have maybe waited two

834
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:01,200
years

835
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,679
but they made a decision in october to

836
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,679
go ahead and launch and announce and put

837
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:07,200
the website up which they did and the

838
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:11,600
announcement came on october 11 2017

839
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:14,880
and then and then see what happens

840
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:18,320
uh the problem they had

841
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:21,279
and one of the reasons they delayed it

842
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:22,559
was that

843
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,640
if losing the election

844
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:27,039
had upset the apple card

845
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,720
the trump administration and the

846
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:30,559
political chaos that it has been

847
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:31,840
creating

848
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:34,640
blew the apple cart away

849
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:35,600
uh

850
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,120
in in a a whirlwind and probably never

851
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,880
to be found again

852
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,200
that we have been operating in the

853
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,279
middle of the worst political crisis in

854
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:47,440
american history

855
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,640
uh worse than t pod dome worse than iran

856
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,559
contra

857
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,960
worse than watergate

858
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:56,480
this is a political crisis and a

859
00:32:02,789 --> 00:31:59,600
constitutional crisis on multi levels

860
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,799
it is a force five hurricane

861
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,480
and so

862
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,880
trying to advance an issue

863
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,120
as important and complicated is as the

864
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,960
disclosure

865
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:12,000
process

866
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:12,840
in a

867
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:16,000
hurricane is impossible i i went to

868
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,519
london i went to london for eight months

869
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,279
i knew i couldn't do anything

870
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,039
i went to london and and tried to do

871
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:23,360
some work and i i did get an interview

872
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:25,760
in moscow which which may eventually end

873
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,240
up prove interesting but uh even that

874
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,399
when it was announced the media ignored

875
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:32,559
it was like yeah you talked to in moscow

876
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:34,880
about putin the disclosure for the first

877
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,480
first to ever do that so what we've got

878
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:38,559
to talk we've got to cover trump here

879
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:41,600
and so they have had to slow down

880
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:44,240
they they it's no point firing your

881
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,159
arrows into a into a 150 mile an hour

882
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:49,919
headwind they're just going to fall to

883
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,930
the ground

884
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,480
[Music]

885
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:54,080
i remember seeing all this political

886
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,279
turmoil

887
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,480
and and uh

888
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:58,399
you know all this investigating trump

889
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,039
and

890
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,399
that's immediately what i think about

891
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:04,399
all that stuff is like

892
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:06,480
there's no way that any of this

893
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:07,919
disclosure stuff is going to move

894
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,679
forward because it's just there's too

895
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,399
much chaos right now for for that to be

896
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,080
to to reach the forefront when there's

897
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,320
all this other stuff going on right but

898
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,919
they made their move they launched and

899
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,760
then they delivered two major stories to

900
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:21,360
the new york times which checked them

901
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:23,200
out and published them on december 16

902
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,789
and waited to see what happened what

903
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,399
happened is it generated a lot of press

904
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,880
for a while and then

905
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:34,080
we're back to

906
00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:36,640
back to the new norm and so they realize

907
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,919
they're gonna have to step back and work

908
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,279
in the behind the scenes and so

909
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:41,679
throughout all of 2018

910
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,360
they were doing what they could behind

911
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,440
the scenes they they would they talked a

912
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,240
little bit they gave some presentations

913
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,640
and did some interviews but overall and

914
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,960
and that created problems for them

915
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:54,720
because again this is a complicated

916
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:56,320
situation right now

917
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,200
not only do we have a political

918
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,039
hurricane but then you as you referred

919
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,120
to earlier there's all this distrust

920
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:03,039
of the of of the military intelligence

921
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,919
complex which they they had to deal with

922
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:07,679
so they they started

923
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,000
having behind the scenes meetings with

924
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,839
uh history channel and television and

925
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:14,000
also with some people in hollywood

926
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,679
mostly tom delong i think was doing that

927
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:17,040
and then they had some meetings on the

928
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,839
hill

929
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,800
uh

930
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,639
maybe basically lobbying though i don't

931
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,399
think they've registered as a lobbyist

932
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,159
uh but private

933
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,879
not announced no disclosure of content

934
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,960
who they talked to but it leaked it was

935
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:30,240
kind of rumored that they were having

936
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,440
these meetings

937
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,000
uh and that's that's fine that in other

938
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:35,919
words the hurricane

939
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,639
is raging outside if you're in a room

940
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:41,040
somewhere having a private meeting it's

941
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:42,720
not going to affect you that doesn't

942
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:44,000
mean that much is going to come from

943
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,520
those meetings right away but you're

944
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:47,599
laying some groundwork so they used that

945
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:49,119
time to do that

946
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:51,440
waiting to see what would happen

947
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:54,159
well now we're in the 20 uh

948
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:55,119
uh

949
00:35:02,069 --> 00:34:58,320
what is it at the 27th month of this

950
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,079
hurricane which is now at category five

951
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,280
and there's not much they can do

952
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,960
but there's some there's not much they

953
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,560
can do but there's some things

954
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,160
one of the most significant things that

955
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,560
we've learned about is that the history

956
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:14,560
channel which had been filming them for

957
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:16,880
many months is going to go ahead and

958
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:20,240
launch a six hour series

959
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:21,839
about the to the stars academy called

960
00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:26,079
unidentified that starts on may 31st

961
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:29,839
which is just 31 days from

962
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,000
and i imagine they're hoping that things

963
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:33,599
will settle down a little bit so the

964
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:37,440
show will have maximum impact

965
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,960
but uh it's a sign that things are

966
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,720
picking up and i anticipate more

967
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,640
developments later this year how

968
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,800
powerful those developments will depend

969
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:46,880
directly on

970
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,720
how the trump situation is resolved

971
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,320
uh and there's a number of ways that can

972
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,680
happen

973
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:54,800
but uh

974
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,599
so there's a lot of uncertainty there

975
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,160
but history channel

976
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,560
the project blue book which is a

977
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,920
a

978
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:05,119
um

979
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,000
uh

980
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:07,839
it's not a documentary i guess yeah i

981
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,599
think it's a theatrical yeah in a way

982
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,680
it was fictionalized that's for sure the

983
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,119
fictional documentary that that was an

984
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,200
easy call and and not really a

985
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,520
disclosure issue per se but it got

986
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,480
tremendous ratings and that's good

987
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,720
right uh but that made it easier for

988
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,400
them to launch the six hour series which

989
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:28,079
will also get great ratings

990
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,880
but

991
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,560
i assure you the disclosure process

992
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,320
means more than just a six hour series

993
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:34,800
on history channel nevertheless they're

994
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,040
in play but they slowed the pace down

995
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,560
because of the political realities in

996
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:40,400
america now

997
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,680
there are a lot of people out there that

998
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:43,200
wouldn't get that they wouldn't

999
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,720
understand that and i appreciate it so

1000
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:46,720
they're irritated that they're drip drip

1001
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,680
dripping

1002
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,920
but i can assure you and i talk about

1003
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:51,920
this in my i've done 20 some lectures

1004
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,670
and i talk about it all the time so i'm

1005
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:59,520
doing what i can to educate

1006
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:02,320
the public about the

1007
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:03,280
the

1008
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:13,680
support it and it's as far as i'm

1009
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,880
concerned it's the most important

1010
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,400
development

1011
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,320
uh in the disclosure the history of the

1012
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,920
disclosure movement

1013
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,760
well i definitely give them i definitely

1014
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:24,000
give them credit for at least this

1015
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:25,440
for how many years now has the

1016
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:27,760
government said since since blue book

1017
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,079
ended they said no we don't investigate

1018
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,480
ufos we don't we don't look into that

1019
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,960
and at the very least

1020
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,040
see the stars academy approved that

1021
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:39,359
that was a lie they have been studying

1022
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,119
ufos they just haven't been telling us

1023
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,200
about it and i always believe that to be

1024
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,800
the case there's no way that they're

1025
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:46,079
just going to let these things fly

1026
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,920
around in our atmosphere and not do

1027
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,000
something about it even from just a

1028
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,839
defense standpoint you want to know what

1029
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,520
that is and what is it doing here and

1030
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,680
why is it invading space yeah but that

1031
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,079
was obvious 40 years ago

1032
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,760
what is brilliant about the maneuver

1033
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:01,359
that was made

1034
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:02,560
um

1035
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,880
this is before the two stars academy

1036
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:07,280
in other words two stars academy is not

1037
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:08,960
there's plenty else that's happened

1038
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,680
prior to the ttsas

1039
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:13,760
and one of them was a brilliant strategy

1040
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:16,880
by who i could like who i consider

1041
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,079
a pivotal figure in all of this

1042
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,599
very private

1043
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:23,520
doesn't you don't see him much

1044
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:26,320
but he has a billion plus bucks so that

1045
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:28,160
makes it a lot easier too

1046
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:29,280
right

1047
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,119
yeah big low they came up with a

1048
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:33,760
brilliant idea so what he did was he

1049
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:37,760
he pressed um harry reid who had

1050
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:40,960
who was pilot and uh had been talking to

1051
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,119
john glenn he helped to help convince

1052
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:44,960
larry reid harry reid

1053
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,440
when he was the uh senate majority

1054
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:49,920
leader with a lot of power by the way

1055
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,200
uh

1056
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,200
and could not be ignored

1057
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:55,359
to press to get a uh

1058
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,000
a program i guess you could say a study

1059
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,720
and at the pentagon uh in the pentagon's

1060
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:03,359
attitude to be are you kidding

1061
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:05,280
uh we don't want to

1062
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:09,119
uh and reed basically said yeah you do

1063
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,560
and

1064
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:12,400
let's just say that

1065
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,920
he could cause a lot of problems for the

1066
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:15,520
pentagon if he wanted to they really

1067
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:17,200
didn't have any choice plus he agreed to

1068
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:18,320
get the money in other words he agreed

1069
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,320
to earmark the money uh with the help of

1070
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,400
two other senators so that it would all

1071
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,240
be pretty much hush-hush and so they'd

1072
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,640
have to go tap into their own budget and

1073
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:28,640
so they couldn't say no so this program

1074
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:31,839
gets launched in 2007-8

1075
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,160
uh and it's it's not

1076
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,320
it's not a declassified program it's

1077
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,200
just on the qt

1078
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,040
uh however it's just not operating as a

1079
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,880
usap but

1080
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:44,720
not almost no one knows about it outside

1081
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,079
the pentagon

1082
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:48,079
uh a lot of the work was being done by

1083
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:49,760
bigelow and bigelow was operating very

1084
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:52,079
privately and he's not not exposed to

1085
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:53,599
foia requests

1086
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:55,599
and so the thing was just clipping along

1087
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,400
but

1088
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,560
the the brilliance of the strategy was

1089
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,400
that i know bigelow would have known

1090
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:02,720
that eventually that program was going

1091
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:04,000
to be

1092
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,440
uh

1093
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,680
no it was going to come out

1094
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:10,880
uh maybe he didn't real he may not have

1095
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:13,359
known it might be as a as a follow-up to

1096
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,480
the announcement of this of an

1097
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,760
organization like the to the stars

1098
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,119
academy

1099
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,520
and then what what what would that mean

1100
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,040
it would mean that the public would

1101
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,760
learn oh they are studying

1102
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,599
the phenomena

1103
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:28,160
but that's all show in a sense in other

1104
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,599
words

1105
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:32,160
the program that they ran whatever they

1106
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,680
accomplished and i i'm sure they

1107
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:35,359
accomplished some things

1108
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:38,960
is a drop in the bucket compared to the

1109
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:41,040
research that's been going on

1110
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,000
in the

1111
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,240
dark world the full black world the usa

1112
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,000
acknowledged usap world

1113
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:48,160
uh i mean the unknown special access

1114
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,040
world

1115
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,480
for 70 years

1116
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,160
billions and billions of dollars have

1117
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:54,160
been spent now that is absolutely secret

1118
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,560
classified and as far as the the

1119
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,720
government's concern it doesn't exist

1120
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,040
now bigelow couldn't out that and reid

1121
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,440
couldn't doubt that but by putting this

1122
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:04,800
program together knowing it would

1123
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,119
actually come out they

1124
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,599
they they essentially in the mind the

1125
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:11,760
pub my the public mind

1126
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:15,119
confirmed that yeah they study uh they

1127
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,560
were they've actually studied the

1128
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,440
phenomena and let others

1129
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:21,359
read between the lines

1130
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,119
and go yeah of course they do they've

1131
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:25,920
been studying for 70 years

1132
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,240
so it's it was a brilliant strategy and

1133
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:30,960
it worked very well

1134
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,760
and i hope they found something but what

1135
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,760
your listeners have to understand is

1136
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:38,319
that our government has spent hundreds

1137
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:41,200
of billions of dollars since 1947

1138
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,319
studying everything they possibly could

1139
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,480
about everything related to this

1140
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,400
extraterrestrial presence

1141
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,680
non-stop 24 hours a day seven days a

1142
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,079
week 52 weeks a year

1143
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,680
uh and

1144
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,440
the to the stars people can't say that

1145
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,200
because it would violate

1146
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,200
understandings that they have and maybe

1147
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,960
their non-disclosure agreements but i

1148
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,400
don't have a non-disclosure agreement

1149
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,079
with the pentagon i can say whatever the

1150
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,160
hell i want

1151
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:10,800
you know i i also wanted to ask you too

1152
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,520
what is it exactly that you believe

1153
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,040
as far as

1154
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:17,920
does the government have materials

1155
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,839
recovered materials or anything like

1156
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,240
that they've been studying because i

1157
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,640
trust your judgment more than uh

1158
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,800
let's just say some people that are just

1159
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:28,480
have to sell a book or you know what i

1160
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,200
mean

1161
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,760
we hear all these stories about area 51

1162
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,920
for years and

1163
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,760
i don't know what to believe one thing

1164
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:37,760
i've always thought though is that if we

1165
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:39,760
did have any materials you hear these

1166
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,760
stories about back engineering and i've

1167
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,440
always thought you know this is like

1168
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,280
handing an iphone

1169
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,599
to somebody in jesus time and saying go

1170
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,200
ahead and figure that out i don't think

1171
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,599
that we really could figure

1172
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,280
figure this stuff out

1173
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,119
what is it what is your belief about it

1174
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,359
i'll respectfully disagree uh first of

1175
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,880
all there's this misconception that the

1176
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,960
et's are millions of years ahead of us

1177
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:02,640
that's not true

1178
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,680
uh

1179
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,240
they're not that far ahead of us

1180
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,920
it's probably that's probably the reason

1181
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:09,280
why they're the ones that are here at

1182
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,760
this particular time

1183
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:12,960
in other words

1184
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,200
we we're closer

1185
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:17,839
uh to them in terms of our development

1186
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:20,079
in terms of technology and therefore

1187
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,359
it's a little more comfortable

1188
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,760
engagement i think et's any if any

1189
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,680
civilization is a million years ahead of

1190
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:27,440
us and still out there

1191
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:29,040
i'm thinking they could care less about

1192
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,760
us

1193
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,920
they wouldn't bother to be here they

1194
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:34,240
have much more interesting fish to fry

1195
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,839
yeah but if there's just a few thousand

1196
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,920
right then we could we could possibly

1197
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:39,760
grasp some of their science and things

1198
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:41,599
like that exactly

1199
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,880
exactly

1200
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:44,319
that's the first point

1201
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,359
um

1202
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,750
the second point is is that

1203
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:52,000
well no to answer your key question

1204
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,920
your your audience can take this to the

1205
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,359
bank

1206
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:57,200
our government has had crash vehicles

1207
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,160
and

1208
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,079
everything that's in them

1209
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:02,720
including the material sides for decades

1210
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,599
going back to the 40s

1211
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:07,119
efforts to re-engineer have probably

1212
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,839
been non-stop

1213
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,119
i believe that

1214
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,440
i have a very strong

1215
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:18,550
sense that not sense but a pretty strong

1216
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:21,119
conviction that they they reversed

1217
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,160
near the anti-gravity tech

1218
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,560
and they we have our own versions of of

1219
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:29,040
craft using any vidic tech out there uh

1220
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,079
secretly

1221
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,400
i'm not i'm not suggesting that the b2

1222
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:34,079
bombers is anti-gravity tech i don't

1223
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,119
think it is

1224
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,520
if they could incorporate some et direct

1225
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:39,520
technology without any risk of it

1226
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,520
creating a problem for the truth embargo

1227
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,280
uh they might have done that thus giving

1228
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:45,680
our planes a little extra whatever don't

1229
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:46,720
know

1230
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,480
but they have they also have e.t bodies

1231
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,040
very likely they've had a living e.t at

1232
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,119
least one or more

1233
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,000
for various periods of time

1234
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:00,319
yeah whether or not that is mind-blowing

1235
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:02,800
that if we have had something

1236
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,359
like that because you know well there's

1237
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,440
all these stories and i i don't know i

1238
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,280
tend to believe a lot of these death bed

1239
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,920
confessions some of these people

1240
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,440
especially with roswell and things like

1241
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,119
they don't have a reason to just make up

1242
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,760
some crazy story and they're all telling

1243
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:19,760
a similar story to their relatives as

1244
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,240
they're passing away and you know

1245
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,240
it's just crazy like

1246
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,400
i believe that they that they do have

1247
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,200
these things and you'll be correct

1248
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,200
um so

1249
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,200
that that you can take to the bank what

1250
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,280
is a little less clear

1251
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:37,440
is whether they've re-engineered

1252
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,280
or reverse engineered the energy systems

1253
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,760
the that is a tricky

1254
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,440
because that's been a big point of

1255
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,800
discussion

1256
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,119
uh that they have extraordinary energy

1257
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:51,599
it'll change everything zero point or

1258
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,800
super cheap very possible

1259
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:56,960
but a lot of that thinking stems from

1260
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:59,119
the operation of the craft in other

1261
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,319
words these craft can go to

1262
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:02,319
extraordinary speeds

1263
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:03,119
make

1264
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,910
which would imply

1265
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,160
huge energy expenditure

1266
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:12,880
and the craft are not very big

1267
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,400
so it's perfectly reasonable to assume

1268
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:18,000
that there's that

1269
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:19,359
they're not doing they're able to do

1270
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,560
this

1271
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,560
on gasoline

1272
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:24,400
aviation fuel

1273
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:28,000
uh maybe not even fusion reactors

1274
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:29,200
however

1275
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,480
there's a problem because they're

1276
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,240
anti-gravitic

1277
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,880
now the anagravitic tech

1278
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,119
could be separate

1279
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:39,760
from the propulsion

1280
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,160
they could be one technology doing both

1281
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,839
at the same time could be two

1282
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:45,200
technologies

1283
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,599
then the anagravitic system

1284
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:53,680
has the ability to zero out the weight

1285
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,240
of the craft

1286
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,280
so that it has to wait

1287
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,200
um

1288
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,839
and once you do that

1289
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,079
well you don't need a lot of energy to

1290
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:08,560
fly the thing at 4 000 miles an hour

1291
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,280
imagine if

1292
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:13,599
it was possible to to

1293
00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:17,280
to completely negate the mass

1294
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,860
of a f-35 or f-22 fighter

1295
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,119
[Music]

1296
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,359
so that essentially

1297
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:24,960
those jets

1298
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,400
were driving a few ounces

1299
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:30,640
they would go pretty fast

1300
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,079
the only thing that would impede them

1301
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:33,760
would be it would be a friction air

1302
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:36,240
friction and and this anagravitic tech

1303
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,000
may have the ability to affect

1304
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:40,319
the space around the craft eliminating

1305
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,760
even that

1306
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,040
so

1307
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:45,839
it's possible

1308
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,880
that that makes a little less clear

1309
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,000
as to

1310
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,880
what what energy it was what's their

1311
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:54,800
energy paradigm

1312
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,200
now having said that

1313
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,000
we have no idea how much energy would be

1314
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,400
required to create the antigravitic

1315
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:03,599
effect

1316
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:04,839
it may be

1317
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,240
enormous uh i would intuitively think it

1318
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:10,960
would be huge

1319
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,079
and so once again we get down to

1320
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,880
how how what what what to what degree of

1321
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,839
paradigm shift is their energy

1322
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,599
technology i have we have we have we

1323
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:24,160
done it have we reversed engineered it

1324
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,760
i don't know

1325
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:28,319
um i used to think we had because we

1326
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:29,280
were

1327
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,559
i used to say that years ago because of

1328
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,880
the way um

1329
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,319
because i know that we had developed

1330
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:38,079
anti-gravity crap

1331
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,599
we have that

1332
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,839
but

1333
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:42,960
you can't

1334
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,119
it's obvious if if

1335
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,599
if if the craft is anti-gravity

1336
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:49,200
you but that but you don't know what the

1337
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,800
energy system is

1338
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:53,760
endogenics is is self-evident energy is

1339
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:56,559
not and so what we don't know

1340
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,520
uh

1341
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:59,040
however

1342
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,359
whatever energy system

1343
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:03,920
that craft is using

1344
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,640
i do not believe it is any system that

1345
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,880
that humans have yeah it's definitely

1346
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,200
not fossil fuels in other words

1347
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,599
uh well anything else and and therefore

1348
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:15,280
anything we have in operation and

1349
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:17,119
therefore there's a reverse engineering

1350
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:19,280
potential there

1351
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,319
and

1352
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,760
therefore

1353
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:24,000
uh given the fact that an energy break

1354
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,359
paradigm shift

1355
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:28,319
is the one thing that could spare

1356
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,079
it's probably the most critical

1357
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,400
component of fixing

1358
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,599
human society circa 21st century

1359
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,359
uh we're headed for

1360
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,119
a world of hurt

1361
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:41,440
and pain suffering

1362
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,480
and unpleasantness uh the rich will

1363
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,480
avoid it to the very last i mean they'll

1364
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,040
hire security uh people in droves

1365
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,720
they'll armor plate their cars they'll

1366
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,800
move up to a hundred floors in the air

1367
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,480
they'll put in a security center do

1368
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:56,079
everything they can

1369
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,599
but the rest of the people are headed

1370
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:59,040
for major herd and then of course it'll

1371
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,520
catch up with the rich eventually which

1372
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,119
which has been the case

1373
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,040
for thousands of years so this is this

1374
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,440
is a bad century we're heading into

1375
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,599
and we have to fix it

1376
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:12,000
and the one thing that would do more to

1377
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,280
help fix

1378
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:16,319
and solve our problems would be

1379
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:17,119
a

1380
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,079
where the cost of energy could be

1381
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,880
dropped by 90 95 98

1382
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,480
and the impact on the environment could

1383
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:29,200
be reduced to a percent or two of what

1384
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,800
we have now is that embedded in the et

1385
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,040
presence it is very possible and

1386
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,359
whatever the possibilities are the

1387
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,920
sooner the entire intellectual capacity

1388
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,000
of the human race is brought to bear on

1389
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,079
that problem as opposed to a limited

1390
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,400
number of scientists working underground

1391
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,200
under deep security clearances

1392
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,710
yeah you know i've often heard too a lot

1393
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,000
of people seem to think in a

1394
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,000
conspiratorial sort of way that part of

1395
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,960
the truth embargo is directly related to

1396
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,800
these energy systems because if we had

1397
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,079
free energy

1398
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,920
i mean you would you would have to work

1399
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:08,559
as much you you know

1400
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,760
free energy for all of humanity would be

1401
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:14,160
just it would change everything for the

1402
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:15,520
entire race

1403
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:16,720
and i don't know there's a lot of

1404
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:19,119
conspiracies it's it's the oil barons

1405
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,319
and you know the people that run all

1406
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,720
these they don't want that shift in

1407
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,559
energy they want us paying five bucks a

1408
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,079
gallon forever

1409
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,079
and and i'm not sure what i think about

1410
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,240
that but it makes sense that that could

1411
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,559
be part of it that these energy systems

1412
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:34,400
could be so

1413
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:35,760
that could just

1414
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:38,079
if if we had free energy tomorrow

1415
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:39,599
everything would change

1416
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:45,200
you wouldn't need gasoline or fuel or

1417
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:46,800
let's clarify things

1418
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,760
sure

1419
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:49,280
there's no such thing steven's free

1420
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:51,040
energy there will never be free energy

1421
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,160
well you know what i mean this zero

1422
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,160
point energy or very or like you said

1423
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,400
like energy that costs 95 percent less

1424
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,920
than it does now

1425
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:59,119
well yeah but yeah that's that's

1426
00:52:01,510 --> 00:52:00,240
significant though because you have a

1427
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,520
lot of people out there that have bought

1428
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,960
into this whole free energy concept and

1429
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:05,200
it's and it's warping their ability to

1430
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,480
understand what's happening what's

1431
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,160
unfolding

1432
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:11,200
uh the human race huge huge amounts of

1433
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:12,480
energy

1434
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:19,510
and so and and

1435
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:22,240
and whatever technology

1436
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:23,119
is

1437
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:30,079
amount of infrastructure

1438
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,520
and that infrastructure is going to cost

1439
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:33,280
money that's not going to be free and

1440
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,079
then it has to be delivered to you

1441
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,640
now it may be

1442
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,520
that the energy concept in the alien or

1443
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:43,359
the extraterrestrial

1444
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:44,880
paradigm

1445
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,440
can be made small

1446
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,599
that there is certain ass there's a

1447
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,200
there's a there's fundamental aspects of

1448
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:53,760
physics here that are scalable

1449
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,960
which means that someone could have a

1450
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,559
device in their home they could provide

1451
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,160
enough energy

1452
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:00,640
to run that home forever

1453
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,359
and so essentially the only

1454
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,680
cost to them would be the cost of buying

1455
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,599
the machine or replacing it if it breaks

1456
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:09,520
down

1457
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:13,520
well look we almost have that now

1458
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,720
if solar

1459
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,480
power

1460
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:18,079
can achieve

1461
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,720
some modest increases in

1462
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,640
efficiency

1463
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,480
there could come a time when you you put

1464
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,559
the solar panels on your roof

1465
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:28,319
in most parts of the world and you never

1466
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:30,559
have to buy outside energy again

1467
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,440
uh

1468
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,680
but you will have to upkeep the panels

1469
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,400
and so forth i'm a big fan i'm a big fan

1470
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,800
of solar power in fact i have a i have

1471
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,640
an off-grid cabin in the woods it's

1472
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,040
completely off-grid everything

1473
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:46,559
is we have water tanks and solar panels

1474
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,800
and battery systems inverters you

1475
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:50,240
wouldn't know it unless you saw the

1476
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,319
solar panels but i can run anything i

1477
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,280
can run microwaves tvs vcrs you know

1478
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,440
computers whatever i want and it's all

1479
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,440
self-contained it was expensive to do it

1480
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,040
i did it over time

1481
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:03,920
but it's it's totally doable

1482
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,119
yes

1483
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,839
now the amount of energy though that

1484
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,079
that we're consuming as a society is not

1485
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:12,240
just

1486
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,160
heating your home

1487
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,400
we have vast industries

1488
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,040
that absorb huge amounts of energy

1489
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:20,640
and so

1490
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:25,589
whatever it's whatever infrastructure

1491
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,800
it's going to take to supply that's

1492
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,480
going to cost a lot of money and that

1493
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,760
money is going to be transferred to

1494
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:30,640
human

1495
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:35,440
to customers but but but again a 95

1496
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:38,880
decrease in energy costs or what i like

1497
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:40,319
to call the cost of an electron because

1498
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,200
we are going to be an electron basis

1499
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,920
civilization for a long time

1500
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:47,119
um

1501
00:54:50,549 --> 00:54:49,119
the infrastructure in place already is

1502
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:50,559
so vast

1503
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:52,240
that the idea we're going to try another

1504
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,599
modality

1505
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,400
is not likely what we can do is increase

1506
00:55:04,630 --> 00:54:58,960
the efficiency of electron based energy

1507
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,640
uh by uh improving the lines that carry

1508
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,880
the the power and so that you have a lot

1509
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,400
less less loss

1510
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:10,160
and other factors and that's doable but

1511
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,200
we're going to be electron based so it's

1512
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:13,119
the cost of an electron so if you if you

1513
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:14,880
if you reduce the cost of moving

1514
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:18,400
electron from point a to point b by 95

1515
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:22,000
that in and of itself is a vast paradigm

1516
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:23,200
shift

1517
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,559
in terms of being able to make

1518
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,799
complex societies work

1519
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,640
particularly complex systems that are

1520
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:33,440
already trillions of dollars in debt

1521
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,799
but if that modality of energy

1522
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:38,079
production

1523
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,040
also

1524
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:41,119
has a fraction of the environmental

1525
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:42,799
impact

1526
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:45,599
that is also a massive paradigm shift

1527
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,559
and so we need to know

1528
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,559
whether those paradigm shifts are

1529
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,319
embedded in that tech that the

1530
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:54,079
government has been sitting on for 70

1531
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,240
years now if the government comes out

1532
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,319
and says there's et's here

1533
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,000
and we've studied the tech we've studied

1534
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:02,640
the uh the anaerobics and energy and we

1535
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,799
can tell you that the paradigm shift we

1536
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:07,119
would love to have is not there

1537
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,319
yet

1538
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,720
and and and we're able to back up that

1539
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:12,319
statement then we could all make

1540
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:15,520
decisions more appropriately about

1541
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,720
what are we going to do about the

1542
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,400
situation we're in

1543
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,880
but one of the one of the uh one of the

1544
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,559
things that i like to mention from time

1545
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,160
to time because this whole history of

1546
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,480
the et issue the government involvement

1547
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,960
is filled with dogs that didn't bark

1548
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,480
they're all over the place it's a whole

1549
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:32,480
kennel of dogs that didn't bark

1550
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,920
which is a reference to a famous

1551
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:36,160
sherlock holm story where he solves the

1552
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,760
case because a dog who should have

1553
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,760
barked didn't bark

1554
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,280
and so

1555
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,119
it's interesting

1556
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:44,640
as you

1557
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,520
as we as as we have approached

1558
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:49,599
and learned about some very major

1559
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,040
problems

1560
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:53,760
like potential meteor impact the display

1561
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:55,920
that could have which you've known about

1562
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,559
for many decades it could destroy us

1563
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,480
the government's been real slow to

1564
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,680
respond

1565
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:03,599
when we talk about

1566
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,720
again some of the climate change issues

1567
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:08,559
uh about

1568
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:10,960
the impact of fossil fuels the

1569
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:12,640
government has been really slow to

1570
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,440
respond it's always been slow to respond

1571
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:17,040
and the only reason we're getting action

1572
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:18,880
now is from enormous

1573
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,880
uh pressure from from the public

1574
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,000
so

1575
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:26,400
why why did they why why did not

1576
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,760
particularly us government and some of

1577
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:29,680
the other major developed countries why

1578
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,240
were they slow to respond to these

1579
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:34,640
obvious issues

1580
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:38,160
uh and instead putting money elsewhere

1581
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:39,440
bombs

1582
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:40,720
jet planes

1583
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:43,760
missiles whatever or new wars why why

1584
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,680
did they not respond

1585
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,920
why didn't they bark in other words is

1586
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:49,839
it possible

1587
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,440
that the major governments which

1588
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,680
includes the us china russia and quite a

1589
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,599
few others

1590
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,680
know about this technology they know

1591
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,440
about the e.t presence

1592
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:01,119
have been working on this technology

1593
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:02,400
they know that eventually this

1594
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:04,319
technology will be available to the

1595
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:07,200
human race when they're ready to divulge

1596
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:10,559
it but they know it's there

1597
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:13,599
and therefore they don't have that same

1598
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,559
uh

1599
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,400
sense of urgency

1600
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:18,319
about addressing these problems and they

1601
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:20,480
just sort of stand back

1602
00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:21,920
everybody else is going oh my god what

1603
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:22,799
are we going to do and the people of

1604
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:24,160
government going yeah you know we'd love

1605
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,680
to tell you but it's not a problem but

1606
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,119
they can't tell us

1607
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:29,599
this is why in truth embargoes and

1608
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:32,559
massive secrecy and everything is a very

1609
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,440
bad way to run a country to run a nation

1610
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:37,839
and to run a planet and if we don't get

1611
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,720
over our addiction to secrecy

1612
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:41,920
and lies

1613
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:44,240
we will destroy ourselves

1614
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,280
so

1615
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,280
this is a theory i have and i'd love to

1616
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,200
see it explored in greater detail later

1617
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:51,359
on but

1618
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:52,720
i has a feeling the government knows

1619
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:55,599
that that things aren't as bad as uh you

1620
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:57,359
might think but we can't tell you and a

1621
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:00,799
perfect example is is meteors

1622
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,440
if a meteor were to turn up

1623
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:05,440
of great size

1624
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:07,359
say the size of mount everest like the

1625
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:08,480
one that

1626
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,520
hit the yucatan peninsula

1627
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,920
peninsula i assure you

1628
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:16,000
the jig is up all right that's my

1629
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,520
extension that's what's called an

1630
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:19,520
extinction level

1631
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:21,280
look plenty of species will be extinct

1632
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:22,799
it won't be humans because humans are

1633
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:25,920
very clever but the number of humans

1634
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:28,079
around after this

1635
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:28,960
uh

1636
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,160
that are alive will wish they were dead

1637
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,079
the human race will go on but i'm sure

1638
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:35,520
it's over

1639
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:39,200
and and so this simply cannot happen

1640
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,319
and

1641
00:59:43,829 --> 00:59:42,240
it's always it i'd always marveled at

1642
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,839
how little

1643
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:45,680
almost from almost all of my lifetime

1644
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:49,280
50s 40s 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s how

1645
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,559
little the government was doing about

1646
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:52,079
this meaning well i would just roll the

1647
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,760
dice

1648
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,520
but you know guess what if you have

1649
01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:58,079
anti-gravity

1650
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,079
if you don't have to shoot a rocket the

1651
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:02,480
size of the saturn v

1652
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,520
uh

1653
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:05,760
and with with minimal maneuverability in

1654
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,359
order to get somewhere if you had any

1655
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:09,200
gravitics

1656
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:11,119
and you could fly craft

1657
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:12,720
at extraordinary speeds and

1658
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:14,640
maneuverability

1659
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:15,440
then

1660
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:16,559
if a

1661
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:17,520
any

1662
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,160
substantial object turned up

1663
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:22,400
even if you only learned about it a

1664
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:25,440
month before impact you could you could

1665
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,440
go out to that to that uh object

1666
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,000
using anaerobic technology craft

1667
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:33,920
and divert it

1668
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:36,400
just move it yeah easily out of work you

1669
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,680
won't even need to blow it up you just

1670
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,520
need to modify its trajectory you don't

1671
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,440
blow it up no you definitely don't blow

1672
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:42,720
it up you just simply move it out and

1673
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,400
move it out of into a different orbit

1674
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:45,920
and and i believe they've had these

1675
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,200
craft for a very long time and so there

1676
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:50,960
are certain people inside that have

1677
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,040
always known look this meteor thing is

1678
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:55,359
not a big deal but we can't tell you

1679
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:58,640
about it so you know make your movies

1680
01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:01,359
be insecure be worried

1681
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:02,880
whatever wish we could tell you

1682
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:04,880
something but you know it's all national

1683
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,079
security

1684
01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:08,000
that's the best example but there's many

1685
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,200
many other versions of that same thing

1686
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,680
so all i can say is uh until we get

1687
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:15,359
disclosure

1688
01:01:18,789 --> 01:01:16,559
and we start getting some real

1689
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:18,799
information from these governments

1690
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:21,200
uh this can this ridiculous kabuki

1691
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:24,400
theater will continue while the world by

1692
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:27,760
and large is decaying on multiple levels

1693
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,559
and we are headed towards huge

1694
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:31,680
huge

1695
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:32,799
um

1696
01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:35,839
pain and suffering and by that and i and

1697
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:37,520
i the way to calculate pain and

1698
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,559
suffering

1699
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,040
is how many people are dying

1700
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,040
unnecessarily

1701
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,359
and perhaps dying very badly

1702
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:47,359
and those numbers

1703
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:51,359
uh in this century are going to spike

1704
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:52,720
to levels

1705
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:54,640
that will make the losses we experience

1706
01:02:00,309 --> 01:01:58,000
in world war ii seem trivial

1707
01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:00,319
hundreds of millions of people and kids

1708
01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:02,480
and women and and and other animals are

1709
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,680
going to die

1710
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:05,280
badly and early

1711
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:06,559
and they're going to be very and

1712
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,920
everybody and all their relatives are

1713
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,079
going to be very unhappy about that

1714
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:12,240
and they're going to act out

1715
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,920
and things are going to continue to get

1716
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:15,440
worse

1717
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:19,119
and so we either get our act together

1718
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:20,720
now

1719
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:22,400
uh if you're my age i'm not going to

1720
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:24,079
experience it but if you're young or if

1721
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,440
you've got kids

1722
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,039
you you should be banging on the

1723
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:29,359
government stores if every if everybody

1724
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:30,799
who had a kid

1725
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,520
in this country knew the real truth

1726
01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:35,280
about what we're facing

1727
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:37,599
they would they would be pouring money

1728
01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:39,599
into the disclosure movement

1729
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:41,039
they'd be funding everybody in a

1730
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,319
movement that's doing anything

1731
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:44,880
worthwhile but they don't know and the

1732
01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:47,680
government is damn well and

1733
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:50,160
dembele intends that they don't know

1734
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:52,160
meaning be stupid be uninformed you

1735
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:53,680
don't you know anything we got to cover

1736
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:58,000
it's all secret but don't worry um

1737
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,559
what can i say well you know stephen

1738
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,480
it may not be the best plan but i can

1739
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:04,400
tell you that there's a reason that i

1740
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:06,240
have an off-grid cabin in the woods and

1741
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:09,119
it's not just to take vacations there

1742
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:12,079
just in case just in case you know all

1743
01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:14,079
right because i have children and i

1744
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,160
worry about these things probably more

1745
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:18,000
than most people you know my eyes have

1746
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:19,200
been open to some of this stuff for

1747
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,559
quite a long time

1748
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:22,400
obviously not as long not as long as

1749
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,720
yours and i appreciate your analysis of

1750
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:26,000
this stuff well you know you know

1751
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:27,599
stephen that a lot of very wealthy

1752
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:28,960
people have been extra built

1753
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,799
extraordinary underground bunkers

1754
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:33,839
plush

1755
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:35,599
deluxe

1756
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,640
bunkers yeah that's strange

1757
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:40,240
oh yeah you can you can google this you

1758
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:44,079
can see them they got photos uh

1759
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:45,599
this has been a lot of we're building

1760
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:47,359
them in new zealand

1761
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:50,960
this is this amuses the hell out of me

1762
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,559
because i know what's coming if we don't

1763
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:54,240
get our act together and i can assure

1764
01:04:00,309 --> 01:03:57,200
you those bunkers are not going to save

1765
01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:00,319
them yeah they say gonna save them

1766
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:03,039
because while they're down there

1767
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:04,799
uh living in a lap of luxury with

1768
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:06,559
jacuzzis and

1769
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:07,680
and uh

1770
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,119
25 years of stored frozen lobster

1771
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:12,720
there are going to be hundreds of

1772
01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:16,000
millions of people roaming the surface

1773
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:18,319
in utter desperation

1774
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,400
knowing full well that these bunkers

1775
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:22,400
exist

1776
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:25,039
and the only way you could possibly

1777
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:27,039
avoid

1778
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,640
a bad outcome

1779
01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:30,480
is if they are deep and they have an

1780
01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:32,640
absolutely completely internal air

1781
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:35,520
supply which requires no

1782
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:39,280
no contact with the surface at all

1783
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,000
uh as well as access which is utterly

1784
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:44,640
impenetrable meaning that unless you

1785
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,760
don't even know they're there except

1786
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:46,960
that a lot of these people above are

1787
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:48,079
going to start

1788
01:04:52,829 --> 01:04:50,000
they will find technology they will they

1789
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:52,839
will avail themselves of

1790
01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:56,000
of kind of you know surface penetrating

1791
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:57,680
radar and other techs i'll try to find

1792
01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,760
these bunkers as always the tech is all

1793
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:01,920
going to be gone this is going to be bad

1794
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,520
times and so they'll hunt for them

1795
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:07,440
and they'll pull those people out and

1796
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,960
probably

1797
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:10,960
set them on fire and then go down and

1798
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:12,319
raid the bunkers

1799
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:13,520
so

1800
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:16,000
there there is such a misunderstanding

1801
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:17,920
of what we face as a civilization

1802
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,520
amongst people

1803
01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:21,599
that's what i do why do what i do but i

1804
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:23,359
can't simply become a

1805
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:24,720
a uh

1806
01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:26,480
i'm not a conspiracist

1807
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,039
and i'm not an apocalyptist

1808
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,200
uh yeah you're definitely not a doomsday

1809
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:33,119
prophet from all the lectures that i've

1810
01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:36,480
seen of you but it's still revealing to

1811
01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:38,559
know that you have these concerns

1812
01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:40,720
it's not you're not being a doomsday

1813
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:42,720
prophet to point out what is going to

1814
01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:45,200
happen if we don't fix something

1815
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,160
right if somebody has got uh

1816
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:50,799
if somebody you know

1817
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:52,960
if somebody is driving a car that all

1818
01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:55,680
this all the lug nuts have fallen off

1819
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,200
and you know this

1820
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,760
and you tell them if you don't if you

1821
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:01,440
don't stop

1822
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:03,280
and fix that

1823
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:05,599
you're going to kill yourself

1824
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:07,119
uh that person looks at you oh you're

1825
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:09,599
just a doomsday prophet

1826
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:10,720
and then they climb in their car and

1827
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:12,720
they go kill themselves no that's not

1828
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,400
what i am i am basically an activist

1829
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:18,799
involving an issue that by its very

1830
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:21,680
nature encompasses a broad spectrum

1831
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:24,640
of other issues and forces me to look at

1832
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,680
a many many threads

1833
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:29,359
and when you look at the actually look

1834
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:31,039
at those threads

1835
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:32,640
it's not hard to see what's going to

1836
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:35,200
happen not only not not not only

1837
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:36,880
and there's also the fact that quite a

1838
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,720
few significant entities have

1839
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,000
government entities have published

1840
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,280
reports predicting all this already

1841
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:45,039
but these reports don't get a lot of

1842
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:46,319
attention because nobody wants to read

1843
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:47,680
that kind of stuff and there's not a lot

1844
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:50,160
of effort to publicize them but

1845
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,680
the 21st century is pretty easy to

1846
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:53,359
figure out if we don't fix pretty

1847
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:55,119
quickly what we need to fix

1848
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:55,920
and

1849
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,400
right now the only chance we have of

1850
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,400
making any serious progress

1851
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:02,480
in this fixed fixing process which i

1852
01:07:06,309 --> 01:07:04,880
would call a reformist progress

1853
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,319
process

1854
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:07,920
is to end the truth embargo in the et

1855
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:09,039
question

1856
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:12,799
that has the best shot of changing

1857
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,359
the game the rules and opening the doors

1858
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,920
for reform nothing else

1859
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,839
even comes close to it

1860
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,319
not some conference or some peace

1861
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:24,400
conference not not a couple of clever

1862
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:25,599
books

1863
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,200
uh we're way past that uh we need a

1864
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:31,039
massive world of view change and a

1865
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,680
refocus on a global level

1866
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,280
and it's going to take an

1867
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:37,200
announcement of the power of a

1868
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:38,559
disclosure

1869
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:40,640
to have any shot at that and there's no

1870
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:42,640
guarantee it'll work but

1871
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,599
it's i'm optimistic it would

1872
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:46,960
and you know what so that's what's at

1873
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,079
stake

1874
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:50,400
one of the other important questions

1875
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:52,640
that i wanted to see your analysis of

1876
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:54,319
because it's just an observation of mine

1877
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:55,200
but

1878
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:56,480
after that

1879
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:58,640
to the stars academy new york times

1880
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,559
piece and this and that

1881
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:03,119
it seems like to me at least that the

1882
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:04,240
media

1883
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:05,839
completely changed the way that they

1884
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,640
cover ufos and this kind of thing it

1885
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:11,520
used to be that you would hear a ufo

1886
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,599
story it was kind of like

1887
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:15,359
they kind of made fun of it like oh

1888
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,239
aliens you know and it was funny and and

1889
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,640
now it seems like at least to me that

1890
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:22,560
their coverage of these things

1891
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,799
has shifted to be more serious and

1892
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:26,640
science based

1893
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:30,000
that's been underway for about 20 years

1894
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,759
at my website

1895
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:33,359
i have

1896
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:35,199
logged

1897
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,799
linked to

1898
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,960
nearly 11 000 articles going all the way

1899
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,880
back to 1947.

1900
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:42,960
wow in other words

1901
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:44,960
you could go to my website and read 11

1902
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:47,199
mainstream articles now i'm not talking

1903
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:49,920
about ufo magazines paranormal press i'm

1904
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:52,480
talking mainstream print

1905
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:55,199
going all the way back to 47

1906
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,640
and if you were to read all these you

1907
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:58,560
would see that the the coverage of this

1908
01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:00,400
issue has evolved

1909
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,319
and gone through phases

1910
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:04,480
and

1911
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:09,359
a significant course of study someday at

1912
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:11,040
major universities

1913
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:12,159
uh

1914
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,960
but

1915
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:14,960
uh it has been improving since 2000

1916
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,239
particularly

1917
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:17,920
2001

1918
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:20,560
but still not adequate

1919
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:23,679
but then it took a

1920
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:25,600
i think i think the citizen hearing on

1921
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:29,040
disclosure which i produced back in 2013

1922
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:31,839
made a shift created a shift helped

1923
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:35,440
the political campaign of 2016 really

1924
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,759
changed the equations

1925
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:39,759
and probably has had the most impact on

1926
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:45,349
and

1927
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:49,920
then the twos of stars academy benefited

1928
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,880
from that

1929
01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:52,239
but when the to the start academy

1930
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:53,600
announced

1931
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:55,600
that was it was in october

1932
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:00,800
of 2017. by then i prg i had generated

1933
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:04,000
out of dc and 400 plus articles

1934
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,920
uh seriously covering the connection

1935
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:07,679
between clinton and e.t issue and other

1936
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:09,920
et issues uh

1937
01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:13,280
of which that maybe one percent was were

1938
01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,640
maybe one or two percent was was

1939
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:16,640
ridicule in nature

1940
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:19,360
uh and so when they announced

1941
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:21,040
uh the total number of articles is

1942
01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:24,080
probably more like 450 480. uh they were

1943
01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:26,159
they were you know stepping right into a

1944
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:28,000
much more favorable media coverage

1945
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,120
reality

1946
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:30,960
now now their announcement and the work

1947
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:34,159
they've done has is has further improved

1948
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,560
the the coverage of this issue

1949
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:38,719
and if it were again if it were not for

1950
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:39,440
the

1951
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:42,480
her

1952
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:43,920
the political hurricane that we are

1953
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,239
living in right now

1954
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:48,159
where the media is at

1955
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:50,960
is so we would have disclosure

1956
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:52,400
they're they're they're ready to cover

1957
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:53,120
this

1958
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:55,520
uh it in a huge

1959
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:58,000
it levels way above

1960
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:00,000
but this this political situation simply

1961
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:01,600
won't permit it

1962
01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:03,679
but the political situation will

1963
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:05,760
eventually pass

1964
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:06,480
the

1965
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:11,920
to truly engage this issue will still be

1966
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:12,960
there

1967
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:14,640
as will the activist movement we'll

1968
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,560
still be there and so we just have to

1969
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:17,920
wait out this hurricane and i've gone

1970
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:19,600
through hurricanes i i used to go

1971
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,560
through them in florida when the

1972
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:22,400
hurricane comes through

1973
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:25,040
you wait it out

1974
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,960
you don't run out in the in the in front

1975
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,719
of the house and yell at it yeah you

1976
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,080
don't just can't wait

1977
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,520
exactly

1978
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,960
you have nothing all you can do is read

1979
01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:34,560
it out and we're kind of in that

1980
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:36,640
situation this is a storm that we simply

1981
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:38,800
have to wait out though admittedly it's

1982
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:41,199
the analogy is not perfect there are

1983
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:43,600
quite a few efforts underway to

1984
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,440
uh end this storm quicker than others i

1985
01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:47,600
guess like weather modification

1986
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:49,600
uh they're trying and we we do have

1987
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:51,199
technologies that

1988
01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:52,560
that are being used to try to break up

1989
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:54,000
hurricanes believe it or not and i guess

1990
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:54,960
you could say that's what's going on

1991
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:56,719
with this political hurricane there are

1992
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:58,880
some efforts to break it up so that it

1993
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:01,199
doesn't last any longer than necessary

1994
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:02,960
you know another question i wanted to

1995
01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:05,920
ask you is a lot of people have asked me

1996
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:07,199
about

1997
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:09,280
disclosure and

1998
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:12,640
it seems to me and and many other people

1999
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,000
some people have a theory that the

2000
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:15,840
government or the powers that be are

2001
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:17,679
sort of getting us ready

2002
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,280
to to

2003
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:21,600
get us get our get our consciousness

2004
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,840
raised to say okay

2005
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:25,920
uh yeah there's life on other planets

2006
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,159
we're not the only thing in the universe

2007
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,400
there's all these stories the exoplanet

2008
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,800
stories there may you know there's water

2009
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:34,080
on mars

2010
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:36,080
and and all these other stories that

2011
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:37,440
seem to be like

2012
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:38,560
a lot of people believe that they're

2013
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:41,679
getting us ready do you believe that

2014
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:42,960
i don't

2015
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:46,480
quite see it that way uh

2016
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,250
they are

2017
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,000
[Music]

2018
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,159
let's just say that

2019
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:54,880
throughout the 70-year period

2020
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,520
there have always been people in all

2021
01:13:02,790 --> 01:12:59,600
levels of government

2022
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:02,800
aware of the et presence that

2023
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:05,120
wanted the the world's people to know

2024
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:06,719
about it but there were people that

2025
01:13:11,189 --> 01:13:08,400
didn't

2026
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:11,199
and so over the years from time to time

2027
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:14,320
those that favored it would maybe

2028
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:17,360
do so be able to do something that would

2029
01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:19,920
help advance that issue

2030
01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:21,520
generally nothing that would get them

2031
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:24,239
into trouble though on occasion it has

2032
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:25,840
and so there's a certain amount of that

2033
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:27,679
going on

2034
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,120
and then

2035
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,960
there is the problem that the military

2036
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:32,640
intelligence complex

2037
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:34,960
has in the

2038
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:38,950
they

2039
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:43,600
show some effort

2040
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:45,040
to

2041
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:46,560
that supportive

2042
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,320
of a truth process

2043
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:50,480
uh they're limited to how far they can

2044
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,560
go there but it's very it's very helpful

2045
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:54,000
because they're going to have some huge

2046
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:55,840
public relations problems

2047
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:57,760
post disclosure and the ttsa is of

2048
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:00,560
course the extreme version of this but

2049
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,040
over time getting something out

2050
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,199
it also keeps pressure off the truth

2051
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:07,600
embargo

2052
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:09,760
to the extent that the government would

2053
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:12,239
completely lock everything up so it was

2054
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,120
an utterly impenetrable wall

2055
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:17,440
the anger with this embargo would be

2056
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,400
greater

2057
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,400
and the incentive to

2058
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,640
to press the issue greater by letting a

2059
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:23,840
little something out here literally

2060
01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:24,800
something out there they're sort of

2061
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:26,840
giving people look

2062
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:29,679
uh you gotta life the lead this is

2063
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:31,920
eventually gonna resolve itself

2064
01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:33,760
leave us alone so a certain amount of

2065
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:35,199
that

2066
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:36,320
um

2067
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:38,560
the idea that there's this orchestrated

2068
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:40,320
careful program

2069
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:43,040
designed to bring the truth to some

2070
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,719
predesignated time

2071
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:46,400
i don't think so

2072
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:48,320
uh however

2073
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,520
uh

2074
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:51,360
they they know

2075
01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:53,679
that anything they do that supports the

2076
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:56,320
disclosure movement

2077
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,840
gets us a little closer to the finish

2078
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:59,679
line

2079
01:15:02,470 --> 01:15:00,880
and

2080
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:02,480
um

2081
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:04,960
that's a good thing

2082
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:06,159
so

2083
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:07,360
i i view it

2084
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,120
with in other words i i'm not a

2085
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:11,920
conspiracy theorist i i don't

2086
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:14,880
i i don't jump to the conspiratorial

2087
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,880
explanation of things

2088
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:19,520
that is not never never my first

2089
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:21,520
uh approach

2090
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,920
first line of thinking uh why don't you

2091
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:25,440
get to what anybody that gets to the

2092
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,080
point where a conspiratorial explanation

2093
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:30,000
is the first one to be dealt with they

2094
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:31,520
really negate their ability to be

2095
01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:32,880
effective

2096
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:34,800
uh and to get things done

2097
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:37,120
and to and to reach understanding of

2098
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:39,600
what's going on and what can i say it's

2099
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:41,120
it's entertaining it's interesting it's

2100
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,800
almost addictive

2101
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:44,640
i get it absolutely but it's not a

2102
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:47,360
luxury that i that i can afford

2103
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,880
the other question i wanted to ask you

2104
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:50,800
because i don't believe

2105
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:53,679
you may have and i may have uh

2106
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:56,000
i wanted to ask you specifically about

2107
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,280
the vatican

2108
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:59,360
and some of the things that they've said

2109
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:00,960
and the fact that they run one of the

2110
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:03,440
world's biggest observatories

2111
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:05,040
and some of the

2112
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,159
some of the things that have been coming

2113
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,239
out of the vatican in the last bunch of

2114
01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,840
years

2115
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:11,679
have you followed that and what do you

2116
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,640
think of of what of what they're doing

2117
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:16,239
and what they're saying

2118
01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:18,239
yeah i'm well aware of all of it uh the

2119
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,080
the the catholic church is one of the

2120
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:22,400
most organized structured

2121
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:24,880
religions in the world

2122
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:27,440
in terms of infrastructure

2123
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,199
resources

2124
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,120
protocols and everything else

2125
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,520
they've known about the e.t presence

2126
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,360
a long time

2127
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:37,040
um

2128
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:38,400
and their observatories wouldn't be a

2129
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:39,840
factor at all

2130
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:41,520
uh an observatory was a terrible way to

2131
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:43,520
look for extraterrestrials

2132
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:44,400
that are

2133
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:45,600
picking up your

2134
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,280
your brother-in-law every couple of

2135
01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:49,040
months for

2136
01:16:53,780 --> 01:16:51,679
checkups i mean

2137
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:53,790
but the catholic church

2138
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:54,960
[Music]

2139
01:16:59,510 --> 01:16:57,040
long ago created

2140
01:17:03,510 --> 01:16:59,520
one of the most powerful

2141
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:04,950
concepts ever

2142
01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:07,760
no other religion has this

2143
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:10,080
and it's called the um it's called a

2144
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:11,520
confessional

2145
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,440
oh absolutely yeah i grew up catholic

2146
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:17,520
yeah so they created the concept of the

2147
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:18,960
confession

2148
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:19,840
uh

2149
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,640
they

2150
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:22,719
instituted the idea that it's absolutely

2151
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:25,440
private it can't be broken in fact

2152
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,520
in a lot of countries i don't know about

2153
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:29,440
uh some of the uh well more addicted to

2154
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:30,640
our authoritarian countries like the

2155
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:31,920
united states

2156
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,920
you can't break the confession

2157
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:35,679
it's very difficult

2158
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:38,719
and so essentially the priest absolutely

2159
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:41,440
keeps your confessions

2160
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,480
uh

2161
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:45,679
private to the to the to the comments to

2162
01:17:49,590 --> 01:17:47,600
the people that doesn't mean they're

2163
01:17:50,770 --> 01:17:49,600
keeping those confessions private to the

2164
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:50,780
church hierarchy

2165
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:52,400
[Music]

2166
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,840
but nevertheless uh the point is this

2167
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:57,600
et's have been engaging us for a very

2168
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,440
long time

2169
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,920
uh and the kind of contact that we've

2170
01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:03,760
been hearing about now for the last 40

2171
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,840
years i suspect it didn't just start 40

2172
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,000
years ago

2173
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:10,480
and i i also believe that the stories of

2174
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:13,600
demons and all kinds of

2175
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:14,960
bizarre

2176
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:17,199
interactions that people have talked

2177
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:18,239
about

2178
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:20,800
in fact have e.t origin

2179
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,440
i'm i'm a big fan of ancient aliens love

2180
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,520
it and believe that a great deal of what

2181
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:27,199
they have been talking about will prove

2182
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,800
true

2183
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:31,520
a lot of it won't it's okay

2184
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:32,800
um

2185
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,400
and so

2186
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:36,719
over the centuries you've got people

2187
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,840
encountering et's

2188
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:41,600
with not the slightest idea what the

2189
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:43,840
hell they're dealing with scared out of

2190
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:45,120
their wits

2191
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:47,920
and almost certainly and well if they're

2192
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:49,440
catholics

2193
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:50,560
they're

2194
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,600
predictable

2195
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:55,360
approach to it

2196
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:57,199
and they're going to go to their priest

2197
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,040
and they're going to tell them about it

2198
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:00,960
yeah and then their priest can go to the

2199
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:03,280
bishop or the cardinal and therefore the

2200
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:05,920
pope and and sure it all goes up the

2201
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:06,960
chain

2202
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,040
now how how long it took for the

2203
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:12,080
catholic church to figure out

2204
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:15,520
that some of these things being reported

2205
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:17,440
were not

2206
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:18,960
what

2207
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:20,239
uh the

2208
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,880
what would what they might think meaning

2209
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:24,719
they're not demons they're not angels

2210
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:26,000
they're not this they're not that i

2211
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:27,199
don't know

2212
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:29,040
uh i'd i doubt they were thinking that

2213
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:30,880
way in the 11th or 12th or 13th century

2214
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:32,560
but at some point the catholic church

2215
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,800
probably started to figure out

2216
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:36,400
and this probably

2217
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:38,239
would start to become a possibility

2218
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:40,159
after the with the copernican revolution

2219
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,679
kepler and so forth as we started a

2220
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:43,679
little bit more about the solar system

2221
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,679
and what have you they might very well

2222
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:47,440
have started to

2223
01:19:50,590 --> 01:19:48,960
some people within the church would have

2224
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,600
started to go

2225
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:52,159
[Music]

2226
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:53,679
is it possible that what our

2227
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:56,560
parishioners or what our our members are

2228
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:59,040
reporting to us are in fact other

2229
01:20:02,310 --> 01:19:59,840
other

2230
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,320
beings from somewhere else

2231
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,080
but they've had this information flowing

2232
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:06,560
into them forever

2233
01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:08,239
and of course as their numbers grew to

2234
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:12,159
500 million 600 million 700 that's a lot

2235
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:14,320
of confessions all right

2236
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:16,560
okay do the numbers do the math

2237
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:18,080
and so the church has known about the

2238
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:20,560
et's for a long time

2239
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:22,960
and but

2240
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:25,840
for any number of reasons it chose not

2241
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:26,880
to

2242
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:27,840
uh

2243
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:32,000
maybe good reasons not to make this a

2244
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,360
and a matter that they were going to

2245
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:34,960
openly address

2246
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:38,239
however that started to change

2247
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:41,120
within the last 25 years

2248
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:43,199
the catholic church started making very

2249
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:46,400
clear decisive maneuvers which

2250
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,199
absolutely was positioning the church on

2251
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:51,440
the right side of the issue and

2252
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:54,080
and and preparing their 1 billion

2253
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:55,360
members to

2254
01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:57,679
to uh to to

2255
01:21:03,669 --> 01:20:58,719
to

2256
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:03,679
the e.t presence once it was disclosed

2257
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,639
and also just like with the ttsa and the

2258
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:08,639
department of defense by making these

2259
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:11,040
statements and maneuvers they were they

2260
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:12,880
were mitigating the public relations

2261
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:14,159
problems they were going to face when

2262
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,480
the announcement came out

2263
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:18,159
and so the catholic church is totally

2264
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:19,440
ready for this i'm not worried about

2265
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:20,880
that

2266
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,639
when i heard some of those statements

2267
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,719
coming out of them i was very hopeful

2268
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:26,320
that maybe they were getting ahead of

2269
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:28,960
some pending announcement or something

2270
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:31,280
like i really thought that it was just

2271
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,639
around the corner when they started

2272
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,800
making these statements because

2273
01:21:38,629 --> 01:21:36,960
it just seemed like uh it just seemed

2274
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:38,639
crazy to me that out of nowhere they're

2275
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,880
just saying you know things like

2276
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:43,040
does it wouldn't affect the religion

2277
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,719
if there was other beings in the

2278
01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:46,320
universe they're all we're all children

2279
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:48,000
of god and all these things and i was

2280
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,679
like this is crazy that they're coming

2281
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:51,440
out and saying this stuff maybe

2282
01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:53,120
something's happening that they know

2283
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:55,840
about or will be happening shortly but

2284
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:58,000
you're you're right then that they're on

2285
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:00,639
the right side of history then

2286
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:01,840
there are there are things they know

2287
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:04,000
about but around the corner is relative

2288
01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:05,199
certainly it's

2289
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:08,639
25 years is done a long time in

2290
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:11,600
geological terms

2291
01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:13,280
so it's been about 25 years since the

2292
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,199
catholic church started to

2293
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,600
uh make some bold pronouncements there

2294
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:19,120
had been a few things in the past going

2295
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:21,440
back it wasn't like totally silent but

2296
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:23,679
really you saw a sea change about 25

2297
01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:24,480
years ago

2298
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:26,639
25 years is not a long time

2299
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,880
yeah as i as i've pointed out

2300
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:30,320
we could have had disclosure under

2301
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:31,199
clinton

2302
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,960
if if things have gone a little

2303
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,800
differently we could have had disclosure

2304
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:36,880
under george w bush if he won a second

2305
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:37,679
term

2306
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:39,520
we could have had disclosure

2307
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,350
the polit the political situation

2308
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,199
and of course also the status of china

2309
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:51,440
and russia soviet union and russia

2310
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:52,560
has been the

2311
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,920
been a serious they've been major

2312
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:55,440
determinants

2313
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:57,600
about whether disclosure might happen

2314
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:58,800
definitely can't happen could happen

2315
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:00,719
this type of thing uh it's been a very

2316
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:03,760
complex uh 2 eight years since the end

2317
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:05,199
of the cold war

2318
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:07,679
the world has gotten well population is

2319
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,080
increased by several more billion uh the

2320
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:12,560
technologies have advanced more nuclear

2321
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,679
nations

2322
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:15,199
the the

2323
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:17,600
the degree of complexity that human

2324
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:20,719
civilization is facing now is a

2325
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,840
magnitude

2326
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:23,760
two higher that it was facing in 1900

2327
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,920
even 1945

2328
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:28,080
and so

2329
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,520
while disclosure

2330
01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:30,880
i'll tell you

2331
01:23:33,669 --> 01:23:32,400
i like to talk about this

2332
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:33,679
then i will have to wrap here pretty

2333
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:36,880
soon sure sure but uh

2334
01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:39,360
we almost had disclosure in 1947 we came

2335
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:41,199
within

2336
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:43,600
hours maybe

2337
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:45,679
certainly 24 hours

2338
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:48,000
of having disclosure in 1947 which would

2339
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,360
have completely changed the course of

2340
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:51,280
history

2341
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,239
uh very few people know this

2342
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:56,560
but in fact it's self-evident if you

2343
01:24:03,030 --> 01:23:59,760
know enough about the subject

2344
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:03,040
fact is is that the roswell army air

2345
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:04,960
base got its hands on a flying saucer

2346
01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:06,960
and put out a press release

2347
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:09,360
they didn't know not to they hadn't been

2348
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:12,000
told not to uh from their point of view

2349
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:13,040
this was a

2350
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,679
big deal and and we we got it and boy

2351
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:17,120
here we go

2352
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:18,800
um

2353
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:22,000
but of course this was a huge problem

2354
01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:24,560
uh potentially for the government

2355
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:26,639
and so

2356
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,800
i'm sure the word of this

2357
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:30,960
press release got to

2358
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:37,430
and immediately they started to to to

2359
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,360
figure out what are we going to do about

2360
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:42,950
and

2361
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:48,880
there were there were papers all over

2362
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,600
the country learning about this

2363
01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:53,520
and they immediately dispatched

2364
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:56,840
reporters to go find out what was going

2365
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:59,120
on i mean think about it you're the new

2366
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:00,719
york times or you're the atlanta journal

2367
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:03,280
whatever and you get a press release

2368
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:06,159
from the roswell army air force base

2369
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:07,840
that they've captured one of those discs

2370
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:09,280
that had been seen all over the world

2371
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:11,679
since the early 1947

2372
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:13,520
you're just going to go well we'll wait

2373
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:15,679
for the government to no

2374
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,600
you send a report

2375
01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:19,120
you put a reporter in

2376
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:22,639
a photographer in a car on a train and

2377
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:24,480
in a plane as fast as you can well guess

2378
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:25,360
what

2379
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:28,159
in 1947

2380
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:30,239
cars planes and trains were not quite as

2381
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:32,639
fast as they are now

2382
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:34,000
and so

2383
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:35,760
it was going to take time for those

2384
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:43,189
but the uh but truman moved quickly

2385
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:46,159
he ordered roger raimi uh we have no

2386
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:48,000
record of that order but you can be damn

2387
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:49,360
sure he did

2388
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:51,440
to immediately hold a press conference

2389
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,280
and refute that

2390
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,440
and they put it together really fast

2391
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:56,960
they got uh

2392
01:26:00,870 --> 01:25:58,560
uh

2393
01:26:02,390 --> 01:26:00,880
jesse marcel senior on a plane

2394
01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:02,400
they got some

2395
01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:03,920
well they got him on a plane they needed

2396
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:05,120
him

2397
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:10,400
dallas fort worth the base

2398
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,560
got him in a room handed him some

2399
01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:14,400
reynolds wrap that was probably wrapping

2400
01:26:18,709 --> 01:26:16,719
up general raymie's fish in the

2401
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,719
in the in the

2402
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:20,159
kitchen

2403
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:22,560
and said hold this up it's a weather

2404
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:25,120
balloon and got reporters in there and

2405
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:27,520
got the story out that same day

2406
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:29,760
uh july the 8th

2407
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:30,719
uh

2408
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:31,840
and

2409
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:33,760
all those reporters that were on their

2410
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:35,120
way

2411
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:40,550
maybe one or two

2412
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:42,159
might have showed up

2413
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:43,600
but it would have been pretty much easy

2414
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,840
to deal with them

2415
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:48,159
now what would have happened if like in

2416
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:52,320
the case of the attack on pearl harbor

2417
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:53,120
when

2418
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,960
key information that could have been

2419
01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:56,560
used to defend

2420
01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:04,310
the military chief marshall but he

2421
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:05,679
didn't get it because out riding his

2422
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:08,000
horse

2423
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:10,719
so what if what if truman was i don't

2424
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,400
know what the dentist

2425
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:14,239
and then maybe roger rainby was out

2426
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:16,320
riding his horse and so this information

2427
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:19,360
is is not getting dealt with

2428
01:27:24,629 --> 01:27:21,920
and time is going by

2429
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:24,639
and so another 10 hours or so

2430
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:26,560
if they hadn't made been able to come to

2431
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:28,159
a decision and get that press crop

2432
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,360
because if they hadn't done it when they

2433
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,880
did you can't hold a press conference at

2434
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,400
one in the morning they would have had

2435
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:34,800
to wait till the morning of the night

2436
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,320
reporters would have been arriving in

2437
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,760
town and they would have been looking

2438
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:39,520
for anybody they can find to interview

2439
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:40,560
them

2440
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:41,600
anybody

2441
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:44,560
sure military guys uh private people

2442
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:47,120
whatever

2443
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,480
and

2444
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:50,480
they would have been very aggressive

2445
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:52,560
they would have been taking photos

2446
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,679
certainly of people they were

2447
01:27:56,430 --> 01:27:55,679
interviewing and this thing would have

2448
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:56,440
exploded

2449
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:57,600
[Music]

2450
01:28:01,830 --> 01:27:59,280
it would have not been possible to put

2451
01:28:02,709 --> 01:28:01,840
the toothpaste back in the tube

2452
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:02,719
and

2453
01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:03,679
we would have learned of the

2454
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:06,159
extraterrestrial presence in

2455
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:14,149
that's how close we came within hours

2456
01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:14,960
and

2457
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,400
the truth embargo would have never got

2458
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:18,000
started

2459
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:19,280
and

2460
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:21,760
i would love the opportunity to have a

2461
01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:24,320
wonderful discussion debate with some

2462
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:27,280
history professor at harvard

2463
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,719
one of their big stages with all the

2464
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:30,880
faculty and students out there and talk

2465
01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:32,480
about

2466
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:36,560
half the 20th century would have gone

2467
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:37,760
if

2468
01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:41,040
disclosure had happened in 47.

2469
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:42,880
it'd be a whole different world for sure

2470
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:45,840
absolutely way different world in fact

2471
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:51,270
a great deal of the of the terrible

2472
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,400
things that happened in the second

2473
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,480
episode wouldn't happen

2474
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,560
and we would be way further ahead right

2475
01:29:02,070 --> 01:28:58,800
now as a civilization

2476
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:02,080
this is one of the most unfortunate

2477
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:03,840
uh misses

2478
01:29:07,830 --> 01:29:06,159
in all of human history now the et's

2479
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:07,840
obviously

2480
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,760
if they wanted us to have disclosure in

2481
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:11,760
1947 they had it i mean they could have

2482
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:14,480
done any time they wanted to or 48 or 49

2483
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,480
and so i i don't

2484
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:18,400
i mean i can't dismiss

2485
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:19,840
the fact that whatever benefits

2486
01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:22,800
disclosure might have provided the et's

2487
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:25,040
did not allow that to happen

2488
01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:27,679
so but they had their reasons and that's

2489
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,960
their business

2490
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,080
um

2491
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:32,880
we had the power

2492
01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:34,960
to bring about disclosure because we had

2493
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:36,480
the craft we had the bodies and the

2494
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,800
press were on their way and so it was in

2495
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:40,719
our hands at that point

2496
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:43,360
and we were able to avoid it and then

2497
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:45,679
the 21st 20th century

2498
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:48,560
played out as we all know

2499
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,000
so

2500
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,719
this idea of disclosure being not never

2501
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:54,159
going to happen i hear this all the time

2502
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:55,760
it's nonsense

2503
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:57,600
uh the issue is not where the disclosure

2504
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:59,440
is going to happen the issue is whether

2505
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:00,800
disclosure is going to happen soon

2506
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:03,040
enough

2507
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:11,030
haven't gotten it haven't haven't seen

2508
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:12,239
it happen

2509
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:13,679
did what i could

2510
01:30:17,590 --> 01:30:15,280
there's new players in town they're

2511
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:17,600
going to help i'm going to try to be

2512
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:21,840
as helpful as i can be um

2513
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:23,679
and that's where we're at

2514
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:25,920
when i went back to washington in in

2515
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:29,199
2002 november 2014 i had raised forty

2516
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:30,639
thousand dollars

2517
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:32,560
which allowed me to do the two-year

2518
01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:34,320
political initiative which generated the

2519
01:30:38,149 --> 01:30:36,400
400 articles and forced the clinton

2520
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:38,159
campaign into the issue during the

2521
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:39,280
campaign

2522
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:42,239
and then she lost and i was broke

2523
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:45,520
the time is coming where me to go back

2524
01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:48,000
to dc and and that could very well be

2525
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:49,520
july

2526
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:51,520
uh

2527
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:53,760
and re-engage the congress and the

2528
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:56,960
political media in in in in my lobbyist

2529
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:58,239
a role

2530
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:59,840
because things are happening and i think

2531
01:31:02,950 --> 01:31:01,199
i could make a difference and plus the

2532
01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:02,960
people need their own representative the

2533
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,159
people need a public

2534
01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:08,719
representative who is not under any

2535
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:11,040
non-disclosures or not never worked for

2536
01:31:14,950 --> 01:31:13,360
the cia or the dod to represent their

2537
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:14,960
interest

2538
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:16,800
the dod and the cia they're going to

2539
01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:18,159
have plenty of people representing their

2540
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:19,199
interests

2541
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:20,000
so

2542
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:23,280
that's my job is to represent the people

2543
01:31:26,470 --> 01:31:24,320
not

2544
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:26,480
the department of defense

2545
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:28,560
and that's fine i mean i expect all the

2546
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:31,199
agencies of government to to be lobbying

2547
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:32,960
for their interest

2548
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:35,120
in in a post-disclosure world

2549
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:38,000
or even in a pre-disclosure world though

2550
01:31:42,470 --> 01:31:39,760
there's not that much of it

2551
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:42,480
um so i'm heading back i needed 40 000

2552
01:31:45,669 --> 01:31:43,920
last time but that was for two years

2553
01:31:46,629 --> 01:31:45,679
this year i'm to go back one year at a

2554
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:46,639
time

2555
01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:48,239
so i need to raise twenty thousand

2556
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:50,159
dollars between now in july

2557
01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:51,440
uh otherwise it's gonna be very

2558
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:53,199
difficult for me to be effective

2559
01:31:56,550 --> 01:31:55,040
i i didn't play the guitar much i i

2560
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:56,560
played a lot but i didn't practice i was

2561
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:02,229
he made millions of dollars and i didn't

2562
01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:04,880
and so i i only operate on support i

2563
01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:06,080
need

2564
01:32:09,750 --> 01:32:07,840
you know i have a lot of people settle a

2565
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:09,760
bit of money in but it's it's you know

2566
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:10,960
most of the people that follow this

2567
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:12,639
field generally are not

2568
01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:15,040
business icons um

2569
01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:16,480
but i'm sure there's something

2570
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:18,320
i just basically in one person to come

2571
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:19,600
forward and say look you got to go back

2572
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:21,520
you go back for a year to lobby in

2573
01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:24,080
washington dc on this issue here's 20

2574
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:25,280
000.

2575
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:27,520
and do what you can

2576
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:29,760
and that would be that's what i need uh

2577
01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:30,719
i'll be getting a little bit of money

2578
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:32,239
here and there but

2579
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:33,679
i'm gonna need a it's gonna take a

2580
01:32:37,189 --> 01:32:35,360
single person to come forward

2581
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:37,199
that believes that the people need to be

2582
01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:39,280
represented in these in these final

2583
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:41,360
months of the truth embargo

2584
01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:43,199
and that the lobbying needs to happen

2585
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:44,239
now

2586
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:45,520
uh because

2587
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:47,360
we never know what's going to happen

2588
01:32:49,590 --> 01:32:48,400
uh

2589
01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:49,600
there's all kinds of events that could

2590
01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:51,760
take place they could push us back

2591
01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:53,679
uh takes backwards

2592
01:32:57,750 --> 01:32:55,280
and so if we're not constantly pressing

2593
01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:57,760
forward we could end up losing even more

2594
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:58,960
ground

2595
01:33:03,669 --> 01:33:00,960
so that's the game plan get 20 grand go

2596
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:03,679
back to dc probably in july start

2597
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:05,040
full-time lobbying to congress in the

2598
01:33:08,709 --> 01:33:06,960
political media

2599
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:08,719
using my contacts

2600
01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:09,840
and

2601
01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:13,920
more that good media you're talking

2602
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:15,679
about and hopefully get back on cnn

2603
01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:18,719
msnbc fox news and so forth which i used

2604
01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:20,159
to be on but i they haven't been in

2605
01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:22,080
touch with me a long time however i

2606
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:23,760
think the timing is right for me to be

2607
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:25,920
back on those programs

2608
01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:27,760
because when i go on one of these shows

2609
01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:31,600
i have no limitations on what i can say

2610
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,639
zero

2611
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:34,800
and i will say exactly what i believe to

2612
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:38,080
be the truth i will not hedge it one

2613
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:39,199
iota

2614
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:40,239
because i don't want to offend this

2615
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:41,920
person or that person or i i want to

2616
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:43,920
make sure i get invited back no no no no

2617
01:33:48,070 --> 01:33:46,080
no i'm a political activist my job is to

2618
01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:48,080
speak truth to power

2619
01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:50,400
and so that's one of the reasons i think

2620
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:52,000
that they kind of stopped inviting me

2621
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:54,000
because they were used to having very

2622
01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:57,280
humble ufologists who were uh

2623
01:34:01,430 --> 01:33:59,280
embarrassed almost to be there because

2624
01:34:04,390 --> 01:34:01,440
then the subject is so taboo and blah

2625
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:04,400
blah blah and easy bait for for

2626
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:05,760
debunkers like

2627
01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:06,960
phil class

2628
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:09,120
uh they they figured out pretty quickly

2629
01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:10,960
uh-uh that ain't me

2630
01:34:17,750 --> 01:34:13,679
and the guy comes on and he says the una

2631
01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:17,760
he says what can't be said right and so

2632
01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:19,120
honestly i've always followed you and

2633
01:34:22,629 --> 01:34:20,560
thought you were one of the most

2634
01:34:24,310 --> 01:34:22,639
courageous people that i've ever seen

2635
01:34:26,870 --> 01:34:24,320
and i want to thank you for that because

2636
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:26,880
we need that you're right we all the

2637
01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:28,960
people need someone like you to do what

2638
01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:31,199
you do it's important work and it's

2639
01:34:35,189 --> 01:34:33,920
probably pretty thankless but let me at

2640
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:35,199
least thank you

2641
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:38,080
i get i get appreciation from within i i

2642
01:34:40,870 --> 01:34:39,600
have enough following that i get

2643
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:40,880
appreciation

2644
01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:43,600
and as far as courage believe me i

2645
01:34:47,350 --> 01:34:45,199
there are so many journalists out there

2646
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:47,360
that are unbelievably courageous they're

2647
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:49,360
risking their life every day and of

2648
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:50,320
course

2649
01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:53,760
being called fake news and whatever uh

2650
01:34:57,990 --> 01:34:55,840
or being just not not being properly

2651
01:34:59,510 --> 01:34:58,000
addressed not their stories not getting

2652
01:35:00,390 --> 01:34:59,520
out and they're getting killed all the

2653
01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:00,400
time

2654
01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:02,800
uh i'm not in that situation nobody's

2655
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:04,560
gonna kill me for what i'm doing

2656
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:07,760
uh it's the courage of saying no but but

2657
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:09,760
the most that i could i ca i have to

2658
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:12,560
deal with is that i'll i'll i'll lose

2659
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:14,960
i'll get invited on cnn i'll i'll tell

2660
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:16,400
i'll tell the truth they won't invite me

2661
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:19,199
back i mean that that's not exactly uh

2662
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:22,239
you know awful or i may get some some

2663
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:24,480
trolling tweets or something

2664
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:26,159
no it doesn't take that much courage and

2665
01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:27,520
yet

2666
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:30,960
effective that there's an awful lot of

2667
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:33,679
people that won't do it

2668
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:35,280
who could

2669
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:37,360
look here here's an example

2670
01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:40,480
robert bigelow in may of 2017 knowing

2671
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:42,080
that in five months the to the stars

2672
01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:43,840
academy was going to be

2673
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:44,800
launched

2674
01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:46,400
that stories were going to be delivered

2675
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:48,000
to the new york times which is going to

2676
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:50,320
out his program

2677
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,920
and the two you know with the research

2678
01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:53,520
he was doing for atip

2679
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:55,600
knowing all of this

2680
01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:58,320
very deliberately

2681
01:36:01,750 --> 01:36:00,159
when when it when he was interviewed by

2682
01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:01,760
by 60 minutes and this is up on my

2683
01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:03,679
website it's elsewhere

2684
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:04,960
knowing he would be asked about his

2685
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,719
interest in the subject

2686
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:08,639
told laura logan

2687
01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:11,440
flat out there's extraterrestrials here

2688
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:13,600
boom yeah i saw that

2689
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:15,040
and then he doubled down when she asked

2690
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:17,360
him again now he's a bigelow aerospace

2691
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:20,000
engineer with a multi-hundred million

2692
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:21,920
dollar contract with nasa

2693
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:23,280
by the way nothing's happened to him

2694
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:25,520
about that and he says there's et's here

2695
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:27,040
now normally that would have created a

2696
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,560
massive media storm except for the

2697
01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:30,719
political hurricane that we talked about

2698
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:33,440
but why did he do that the reason he did

2699
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:36,239
it is that bigelow bob biglow who was

2700
01:36:41,270 --> 01:36:39,360
one of my great heroes he knew that the

2701
01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:41,280
the men and women of the to the stars

2702
01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:43,600
academy could not say that they were

2703
01:36:46,070 --> 01:36:44,800
coming forward they were going to do

2704
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:46,080
what they were going to do but that is

2705
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:47,840
not something they could say but it's

2706
01:36:51,830 --> 01:36:50,159
something that he could say

2707
01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:51,840
because he isn't a member of the two of

2708
01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:53,360
the stars academy he just happens to be

2709
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:54,800
connected to them

2710
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:57,440
and by doing that

2711
01:37:02,470 --> 01:36:59,600
it made it easier for them to not do

2712
01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:02,480
that meaning that their

2713
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:05,040
louis elizondo or christopher mellon is

2714
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:05,760
not going to say there's

2715
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:07,520
extraterrestrials here but they're going

2716
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,600
to say just about everything up to that

2717
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:11,440
and because of what robert bigelow did

2718
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:12,560
everybody's going to figure out well

2719
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:14,960
yeah that's what they really mean

2720
01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:16,880
you see how that dynamic works out okay

2721
01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:18,639
fine

2722
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:20,800
but that raises a question

2723
01:37:26,709 --> 01:37:23,679
why hasn't elon musk who seems to be not

2724
01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:26,719
shy about saying what's on his mind

2725
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:27,840
come forward and said this

2726
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:29,760
extraterrestrial pair he knows damn well

2727
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:32,159
there is he's got an answer to this

2728
01:37:35,830 --> 01:37:34,000
thought about this though with elon musk

2729
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:35,840
he's got an answer to stock

2730
01:37:40,870 --> 01:37:38,159
people and investors and board members

2731
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:40,880
and so he's got to toe the line you see

2732
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:42,719
how much trouble he got on for taking a

2733
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,159
puff of a of

2734
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:46,239
a joint on joe rogan

2735
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:48,159
it was in the media for days and days

2736
01:37:54,070 --> 01:37:52,000
and days and and uh but but well yeah

2737
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:54,080
but i mean it's one thing well the pro

2738
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:56,960
the problems he got into were

2739
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:59,040
very much connected to improper

2740
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,520
statements under sec saying there's

2741
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:03,440
extraterrestrials here has nothing to do

2742
01:38:05,350 --> 01:38:04,639
yeah you're right you're right i agree

2743
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:05,360
with you

2744
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,679
with with with his with

2745
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:09,600
his board of directors

2746
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:11,760
uh on tesla it happens to be huge would

2747
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:13,600
be hugely uh

2748
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:17,360
uh embellishing of this spacex project

2749
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:20,080
and what about jeff bezos oh yeah why

2750
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,520
you think somebody's gonna give him a

2751
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:23,119
hard time

2752
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:24,800
jeff bezos

2753
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:26,960
he's got more money than god

2754
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:29,280
jeff bezos was able to to just

2755
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:30,960
disembowel

2756
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:33,360
an effort by the national enquirer which

2757
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:36,320
is basically nothing but pure excrement

2758
01:38:41,669 --> 01:38:38,880
uh to mess up his life

2759
01:38:44,229 --> 01:38:41,679
by interfering in the personal process

2760
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:44,239
underway with his with his wife and soon

2761
01:38:48,709 --> 01:38:46,800
to be ex-wife and a mistress

2762
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:48,719
and he basically just shoved it right

2763
01:38:52,709 --> 01:38:50,960
down their throat

2764
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:52,719
so you think jeff bezos couldn't

2765
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,920
announce there's an extraterrestrial

2766
01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:55,600
presence by bigelow and somehow that was

2767
01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:57,840
going to cause him a lot of trouble i

2768
01:39:02,390 --> 01:38:59,360
don't think so

2769
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,400
and what about the branson

2770
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:04,560
branson's part of spacex

2771
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:05,920
you don't think branson knows as an

2772
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:07,679
extraterrestrial presence

2773
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:10,159
when you are a multi-billionaire let me

2774
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:11,520
let me give you a little i'm not a

2775
01:39:14,709 --> 01:39:13,600
billionaire but i i'm gonna i'm gonna

2776
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:14,719
give you some

2777
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:17,040
some i think purely reliable information

2778
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:18,480
when you are a multi-billionaire there

2779
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,320
are people lined out

2780
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:22,480
at your office door all the way down the

2781
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:24,880
hall and out of the building wanting to

2782
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:26,719
tell you stuff

2783
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:29,520
that's really cool

2784
01:39:38,189 --> 01:39:35,270
and so the idea

2785
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:38,199
that nobody has taken one of these

2786
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:40,000
multi-billionaires that are all involved

2787
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:41,840
in civilian space pros themselves and

2788
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:43,360
say by the way if you didn't already

2789
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:46,639
know there's et's here

2790
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:48,480
and so bob bigelow did it why aren't

2791
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:50,800
they because there's still enough fear

2792
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:54,239
in them still enough concern

2793
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:55,440
that there'll be a problem nothing's

2794
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:57,280
happened to bob bigelow

2795
01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:58,719
and the problem they have is when

2796
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:01,199
disclosure does come they only have two

2797
01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:04,560
options mr branson mr musk and mr bezos

2798
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:06,480
they can say you know

2799
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,199
i'm so god damn dumb i didn't actually

2800
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,199
get it i didn't notice i missed the

2801
01:40:16,629 --> 01:40:13,920
whole thing or they can say you know

2802
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,639
i've always known but i i just couldn't

2803
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:18,400
say anything

2804
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:21,040
neither one of these are a good look

2805
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,800
for these men

2806
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:24,800
and so they need to really think hard

2807
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,480
not only about coming forward and

2808
01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:28,320
telling the truth about this issue but

2809
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:31,040
supporting the effort of people who have

2810
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:34,000
one ten thousands the kind of money they

2811
01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:35,440
have

2812
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:37,760
one ten thousandths of a percent

2813
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,560
trying to push the government on issue

2814
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:42,480
and make paying very heavy prices for

2815
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,360
that in terms of in terms of sacrifice

2816
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:47,600
not in blood and sweat but in terms of

2817
01:40:49,890 --> 01:40:49,280
sacrifice they need to think about that

2818
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:49,900
really hard

2819
01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:51,520
[Music]

2820
01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:53,600
well and that's about all i got oh you

2821
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:55,520
know what the the one last question and

2822
01:40:58,629 --> 01:40:57,119
you could be as brief as you want i've

2823
01:41:01,350 --> 01:40:58,639
never heard you talk about this and i've

2824
01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:01,360
always wanted your analysis of this

2825
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:03,040
believe that extraterrestrials are

2826
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:05,440
visiting us many people do

2827
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:07,360
you've been studying this phenomenon for

2828
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:10,480
so many years and i i like to ask people

2829
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:14,159
like stan friedman and you this question

2830
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,159
why are they here

2831
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:18,400
why do you believe they're here

2832
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,480
i have a two-hour lecture on that

2833
01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:22,239
um

2834
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:23,199
so

2835
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,960
how do i answer that question in in two

2836
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:26,159
minutes

2837
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:27,520
um

2838
01:41:30,790 --> 01:41:29,440
i believe that

2839
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,800
one

2840
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:32,639
we've been engaged by extraterrestrials

2841
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:34,480
for as far back in history as you want

2842
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:36,000
to go

2843
01:41:39,750 --> 01:41:38,080
possibly even before humans were here

2844
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:39,760
but a different type of engagement to be

2845
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:41,440
sure

2846
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:43,040
the et's that have engaged us in the

2847
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:45,360
past may not even be around now probably

2848
01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:46,480
aren't

2849
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:47,679
it's possible that some of the ones

2850
01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:49,600
engaging against now have in fact been

2851
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:51,119
visiting off and on

2852
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:54,320
for tens of thousands a year don't know

2853
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:55,520
but we've been engaged

2854
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:56,960
[Music]

2855
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:58,080
the

2856
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:01,280
nature of that engagement

2857
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:03,040
changed dramatically when the bombs were

2858
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:04,320
dropped on

2859
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:06,320
japan

2860
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:08,960
uh we built them

2861
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:11,119
we didn't mean we were good we might we

2862
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:13,600
dropped them on people we tested them

2863
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:15,040
didn't mean we would drop it on people

2864
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:17,520
but then we dropped them on people

2865
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:20,159
and so something that changed their

2866
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:23,360
relationship between these ets and our

2867
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:24,880
status

2868
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,320
and that triggered the modern era of

2869
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:30,480
extraterrestrial engagement leading and

2870
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:32,400
inevitably to disclosure

2871
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:33,760
so one of the

2872
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:34,480
so

2873
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:37,600
that that explains

2874
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:39,199
that doesn't explain why they've been

2875
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:41,600
here for well let me put it and that is

2876
01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:44,400
my answer to the question

2877
01:42:49,109 --> 01:42:46,880
why are they active now

2878
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:49,119
to a significantly larger degree and so

2879
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,400
forth okay

2880
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,560
in addition to

2881
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:54,400
uh well but one of the reasons they're

2882
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:56,639
here is they're paying attention

2883
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:58,800
they're paying attention to our planet

2884
01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:01,360
and a lot of other planets so

2885
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,960
uh that intention in our case and

2886
01:43:06,149 --> 01:43:04,880
probably other cases includes being here

2887
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:06,159
from time to time

2888
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:07,600
uh if

2889
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:09,520
not intermittently then on a continual

2890
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:11,199
basis

2891
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:12,320
but

2892
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,480
their attention is about what i mean

2893
01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:16,159
they're not just it's not just an

2894
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:18,400
intention like well there's you're there

2895
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:20,320
we should probably no

2896
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:21,760
they're very interested in this planet

2897
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:25,040
why because it has a biosphere

2898
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:27,679
i assure you they have a tiny tiny

2899
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:29,920
fraction of interest in the moon

2900
01:43:34,149 --> 01:43:32,239
and even mars at this point but

2901
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,159
we have a biosphere

2902
01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:36,320
and a biosphere is the most complicated

2903
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:37,840
thing in the universe as far as i'm

2904
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,239
concerned i and i don't expect to ever

2905
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,400
hear differently frankly

2906
01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:44,880
um it takes billions of years to create

2907
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:47,040
one and the degree of

2908
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:48,800
complexity is off the charts if

2909
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,960
somebody's got a better example i'll

2910
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:52,480
listen to it but

2911
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:53,679
so

2912
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:56,239
if you're if you're living if you're if

2913
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:57,520
your planet has a biosphere it's the

2914
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:59,040
most complicated thing in the year that

2915
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:01,520
is what advanced scentsy and species are

2916
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:03,760
going to be interested in

2917
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:04,960
so they're going to be involved they're

2918
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:05,760
going to check it out they're going to

2919
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:07,760
be engaging it in ways we can only

2920
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:09,040
speculate

2921
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:10,480
but one of the most important ways will

2922
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,400
be on the basis of genetics because at

2923
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:14,880
the heart of bio of a biosphere is

2924
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,440
genetics genetics is is essentially the

2925
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:19,280
foundation of life

2926
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:21,520
atoms are the foundation of the physical

2927
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:24,159
world the inanimate world certainly

2928
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:25,679
and of course also the foundation of

2929
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:27,199
life but

2930
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:28,000
uh

2931
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:30,159
dna genetics is the co-foundation of

2932
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:32,320
life along with what we call

2933
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:33,360
particles

2934
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:34,400
so

2935
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,400
that's where their interest is

2936
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,159
and the most complex life on the planet

2937
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:40,560
is humans the most complex entity of the

2938
01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:42,320
planet of the human brain

2939
01:44:45,590 --> 01:44:43,920
and so they're interested in that and

2940
01:44:47,109 --> 01:44:45,600
they're engaging us

2941
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:47,119
in various ways and a lot of that

2942
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,280
engagement is genetics

2943
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:51,600
which includes contact and i believe

2944
01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:53,920
hybrid hybrid creation of hybrid uh

2945
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:55,119
activities

2946
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:56,880
this is a big deal

2947
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:00,719
and that's why they're here but

2948
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:02,880
the reason why

2949
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:04,560
in addition to their fundamental

2950
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:07,040
engagement of our planet going back hour

2951
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:10,320
long there is a new reason that they're

2952
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:11,840
here

2953
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:19,830
and involves nuclear weapons

2954
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:22,960
and the easiest way i can say this

2955
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:26,159
a a very complex idea simplest way to

2956
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:32,149
if you are an advanced species capable

2957
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:33,920
of traveling

2958
01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:36,239
between star systems and the galaxy is

2959
01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:38,560
at your disposal

2960
01:45:43,350 --> 01:45:41,440
but you are not destructive meaning

2961
01:45:46,870 --> 01:45:43,360
you're you're not you're way past the

2962
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:46,880
idea that we must go blow things up

2963
01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:47,920
why

2964
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:51,199
uh understand study explore blow things

2965
01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:52,560
up no

2966
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:54,800
and they don't

2967
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,920
and they're not gonna let and they're

2968
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:57,280
not gonna allow themselves to be blown

2969
01:46:00,390 --> 01:45:59,040
up

2970
01:46:03,030 --> 01:46:00,400
so

2971
01:46:06,870 --> 01:46:03,040
and you are you are tracking several

2972
01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:06,880
tens of thousands of biospheres

2973
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:11,440
and on a given day or given point

2974
01:46:15,590 --> 01:46:13,360
you notice that one of these biospheres

2975
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:15,600
and the sentient beings on it

2976
01:46:17,990 --> 01:46:16,560
are

2977
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:18,000
have just hit the

2978
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:20,159
the beginning of the of the

2979
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:21,040
the

2980
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:23,119
uh extreme technical

2981
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:25,040
curve in other words the technological

2982
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:26,560
advance is now going to the curve on

2983
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:28,080
that is going to start standing up on

2984
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:29,280
its end

2985
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:30,880
and they're headache towards major

2986
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:32,800
technological breakthroughs fine you

2987
01:46:35,669 --> 01:46:33,920
know that

2988
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:35,679
and then of course they crack the atom

2989
01:46:39,669 --> 01:46:37,520
and start developing atomic science

2990
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:39,679
that's notable they start developing a

2991
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:40,960
lot of things which you're noting but

2992
01:46:45,270 --> 01:46:42,400
one of the things you're most interested

2993
01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:45,280
in is weaponry and that's atomic bombs

2994
01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:48,239
this would be true of any planet

2995
01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:51,199
atomic physics doesn't change

2996
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:53,520
from galaxy to galaxy it is what it is

2997
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:55,119
cracking the atom an atom bomb would be

2998
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,320
the same here as it would be on any

2999
01:47:02,229 --> 01:46:58,400
other planet anywhere in any galaxy and

3000
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:02,239
so we we we build atomic bombs

3001
01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:04,400
and you're pretty much aware of our our

3002
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:06,320
our general state of physics quantum

3003
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:08,719
physics and everything else and you you

3004
01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:10,320
are smart enough and you've been you've

3005
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:12,560
been in a number of rodeos to know

3006
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,119
that the moment we dropped those bombs

3007
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:16,800
and given the technological curve we

3008
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:19,280
were on we were very close to not only

3009
01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:21,920
having atomic bombs but interstellar

3010
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:23,280
travel

3011
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:24,719
okay fine

3012
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:26,480
why do you care

3013
01:47:29,990 --> 01:47:28,239
because if you are an interstellar

3014
01:47:32,070 --> 01:47:30,000
species

3015
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:32,080
and you don't blow things up

3016
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:34,000
and you have no intention of being blown

3017
01:47:38,470 --> 01:47:36,719
up the one thing you will not permit and

3018
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:38,480
you might permit a lot

3019
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:40,560
is you will not permit a civilization

3020
01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:42,880
say human civilization

3021
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:45,520
to build interstellar starships and put

3022
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:48,080
atomic or hydrogen bombs on them and fly

3023
01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:50,880
off into the galaxy that is not

3024
01:47:56,229 --> 01:47:54,080
going to happen period

3025
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:56,239
now there's very solutions to that you

3026
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:58,000
could incinerate the whole planet be

3027
01:48:01,510 --> 01:47:59,360
easy to do

3028
01:48:03,430 --> 01:48:01,520
problem solved but you don't blow things

3029
01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:03,440
up

3030
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,000
you could take over the planet

3031
01:48:11,350 --> 01:48:08,800
and control everything

3032
01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:11,360
uh but why

3033
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:13,199
i mean my god i can't think of a worse

3034
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:14,400
job

3035
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:16,080
you can travel the galaxy we're gonna

3036
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:16,960
have a bunch of you're gonna you're

3037
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:19,920
gonna manage the human race oh my god

3038
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,440
uh

3039
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:23,520
what might you do

3040
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:25,520
well i believe

3041
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:26,639
what they're doing and one of the

3042
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:28,560
reasons they're here now

3043
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:31,600
maybe the most important for us

3044
01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:32,880
is that

3045
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:35,520
you begin a process

3046
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:37,520
that you fully intend to

3047
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,560
to see

3048
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:39,920
realized

3049
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:42,639
before those starships and

3050
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,320
atom bombs get come together

3051
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:48,000
in which you push that civilization

3052
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:49,920
towards a self-acknowledgement of their

3053
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:51,760
presence of their existence a

3054
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:53,119
civilization toward the point they

3055
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:54,800
realize they're not the only game in

3056
01:48:58,310 --> 01:48:56,400
town

3057
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:58,320
you don't push it too hard you try to be

3058
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:00,080
respectful you have other work you're

3059
01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:03,520
doing but you'll continue

3060
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:05,920
but by bumping things along in various

3061
01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:06,800
ways

3062
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:09,280
and there's a lot of things they've done

3063
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:11,360
ultimately you arrive at a point where

3064
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:12,239
that

3065
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:18,800
self acknowledges their presence

3066
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:22,159
meaning yes the trust is disclosure day

3067
01:49:25,189 --> 01:49:23,599
all the heads of state

3068
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:25,199
tell all their wonderful citizens we're

3069
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:27,760
not alone there's extraterrestrials here

3070
01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:30,159
and thus begins a very intense learning

3071
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:32,000
curve a year two years in which the

3072
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:34,080
entire planet tries to learn everything

3073
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,239
he can about excellent trust what the

3074
01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:38,080
government knows what the researchers

3075
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,239
have found everything

3076
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:42,400
they can as well as uh

3077
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:45,280
un untold millions of hours of of

3078
01:49:49,990 --> 01:49:48,560
ex extrapolation and speculation about

3079
01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:50,000
what could happen next what would go and

3080
01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:51,760
so forth

3081
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:57,270
open contact

3082
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:59,119
meaning

3083
01:50:01,830 --> 01:50:00,320
it's time to

3084
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:01,840
start talking with these governments in

3085
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:03,840
an open fashion in which the people will

3086
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:05,760
know it's happening

3087
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:08,080
open contact with the civilizations that

3088
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:10,400
have been engaging us

3089
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:12,800
not 50 years after disclosure not five

3090
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:15,040
years probably two years

3091
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:16,320
and then

3092
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:18,800
here's the deal now

3093
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:20,239
they know you're here we know they're

3094
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,840
there we know they're here

3095
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,400
and

3096
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:26,320
we've gotten past disclosure we've

3097
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,639
gotten past open contact we've settled

3098
01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:30,400
down we're calm

3099
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,800
we're not worried about being eaten or

3100
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:35,280
or taken over or anything like that

3101
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:38,080
and the et's let it be known

3102
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:39,920
to us

3103
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:41,520
through our governments

3104
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:42,719
that we're not going to be allowed to

3105
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:45,760
bring those atomic bombs into space

3106
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:47,679
not going to happen

3107
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:50,000
so if you build a starship

3108
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,840
and you plan to put the bomb we're just

3109
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:53,840
going to destroy that starship we're not

3110
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:55,280
going to blow up your nuclear weapons

3111
01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:57,760
piles because we don't care i mean it's

3112
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:59,280
it's less of a concern to us that you

3113
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:01,360
nuke yourselves

3114
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:03,040
it would be awkward and unfortunate but

3115
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:06,480
there's a big galaxy it's okay but

3116
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:08,159
you're not going to nuke us and so we're

3117
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:09,040
not going to blow up your nuclear

3118
01:51:12,550 --> 01:51:10,560
weapons but we will blow that starship

3119
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:12,560
up on the other hand

3120
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,480
if you will

3121
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:16,719
wake up and realize the news is we have

3122
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:19,280
a new new world new paradigm

3123
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:22,560
get rid of your nuclear weapons

3124
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:23,920
probably get rid of your biological

3125
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,109
and

3126
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:30,960
get into full agreement

3127
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:32,560
that you're not going to be a

3128
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:35,040
destructive influence in the galaxy

3129
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:37,040
then we'll we we're going to you'll be

3130
01:51:40,070 --> 01:51:38,800
able to be part of our world you will be

3131
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:40,080
part of our

3132
01:51:44,390 --> 01:51:42,239
alliances or whatever you will have a

3133
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:44,400
role

3134
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:46,560
and you will benefit from it

3135
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:48,159
and

3136
01:51:52,229 --> 01:51:49,920
things will get a lot better in your

3137
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:52,239
neck of the woods

3138
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:53,520
i believe that's what's going on and

3139
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:54,719
that's why they're here that's one of

3140
01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:57,040
the key reasons that they're here now

3141
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:58,480
in addition to whatever else they're

3142
01:52:01,830 --> 01:51:59,760
here for

3143
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:01,840
so we're going through a transition

3144
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:04,239
leading to disclosure and open contact

3145
01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:05,520
because

3146
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:08,000
it's absolutely not going to be

3147
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:09,840
impossible for us to

3148
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,920
take our weapons into space and do to

3149
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:13,520
them but or try to do to them what we're

3150
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:14,320
doing

3151
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,560
to ourselves

3152
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:18,320
so this would be the most powerful

3153
01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:20,480
inflection point in the history of

3154
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,840
humanity

3155
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:23,840
or in the history of this planet going

3156
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:26,080
back five four three and a half billion

3157
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:27,360
years

3158
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:29,520
that's how big a deal it is

3159
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:31,280
and that's why it's tough

3160
01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:33,040
when i'm confronted with people that are

3161
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:34,560
simply clueless

3162
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:37,199
or refuse to listen or reporters that

3163
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:38,960
don't see the importance of the story

3164
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:40,000
things like that i get a little

3165
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,760
frustrated and frustrated with with

3166
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:43,440
people in government that know for well

3167
01:52:48,229 --> 01:52:45,520
how important this is but still can't

3168
01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:48,239
step out yet

3169
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:54,310
as long as we don't take those nukes

3170
01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:56,639
into space

3171
01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:59,679
we're good uh it's just a matter of in

3172
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:01,520
other words it's not about the et's

3173
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:03,760
well-being per se they are not

3174
01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:05,599
threatened by us they will never be

3175
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,440
threatened by us

3176
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,679
it's about whether we're going to fix

3177
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:11,520
our our situation and whether we're

3178
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:13,119
going to have maybe some assistance from

3179
01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:14,880
them

3180
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:17,679
that's what's really involved here

3181
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:21,360
and ask yourself have you ever heard a

3182
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:22,880
single member

3183
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:25,520
of established the established academic

3184
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,560
world

3185
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:28,719
the established media

3186
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:31,280
or any politician

3187
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:32,320
either

3188
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,440
campaigning or in office who has ever

3189
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:37,520
said what i have just said in the last

3190
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:38,400
15 minutes

3191
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:39,599
[Music]

3192
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:42,080
yeah absolutely not

3193
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:44,080
there you go

3194
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:46,400
and so i need 20 000 bucks to get back

3195
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:48,239
to washington and start getting on cnn

3196
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:50,000
where i would be happy to say exactly

3197
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:51,840
what i just said to you

3198
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:53,440
absolutely i want to encourage my

3199
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:55,520
listeners to contact

3200
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:59,040
uh to contact you and see maybe we could

3201
01:54:02,229 --> 01:54:00,800
get you some help with that

3202
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:02,239
and that would be again the website to

3203
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:03,679
do this it's all the website yeah the

3204
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:05,920
website's got it all the contributions

3205
01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:07,440
and all that stuff's all right there

3206
01:54:10,629 --> 01:54:09,440
paradigm research group dot org

3207
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:10,639
um

3208
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,030
if i get enough together i'll be back

3209
01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:17,119
hopefully in july barring any dramatic

3210
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:19,199
events happening god knows what

3211
01:54:24,070 --> 01:54:22,159
uh and but in a very good position to

3212
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:24,080
make a difference but

3213
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,199
i won't be alone this time in 1996 i was

3214
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:30,080
the only ufo lobbyist in the world maybe

3215
01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:32,960
and there was nobody else

3216
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:34,800
pushing well that's not true

3217
01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:37,040
that's not true

3218
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:38,639
there was one other well there were a

3219
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:40,080
couple of other

3220
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:42,159
groups of people that were kind of put

3221
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:43,599
pressing on the government a little bit

3222
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:45,520
one was stephen greer the other was the

3223
01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:47,679
operation right to know i wasn't alone

3224
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:49,199
but it wasn't much

3225
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:50,400
all right

3226
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:52,960
it was tiny compared to what's going on

3227
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:54,000
now

3228
01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:55,679
and so if i get back in washington this

3229
01:54:58,950 --> 01:54:57,760
time i'm going to have a lot of

3230
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:58,960
uh there's going to be a lot more

3231
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:00,800
players involved and

3232
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:03,280
i'll be part of a bigger picture

3233
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:04,960
and uh again

3234
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:06,960
the role a goal is to get disclosure

3235
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:08,560
this year is doable

3236
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:10,960
depending upon the political resolutions

3237
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,320
uh

3238
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:14,159
certainly next year

3239
01:55:17,350 --> 01:55:16,000
but not much not not too far in the

3240
01:55:19,350 --> 01:55:17,360
future

3241
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:19,360
uh and let's keep in mind

3242
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,280
that apart from

3243
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:23,520
whatever the situation here is on the on

3244
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:25,280
in the united states

3245
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:26,719
whatever the political dilemmas or

3246
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:28,800
problems or bearish we have here there

3247
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:30,239
are other heads of state that can to end

3248
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:32,560
the truth embargo tomorrow

3249
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:34,560
as a state that don't have

3250
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:37,599
the problems and and uh

3251
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:39,199
resistance that

3252
01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:41,199
heads of state here have had they can go

3253
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,320
out

3254
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:44,320
microphone tell their people

3255
01:55:47,990 --> 01:55:45,679
and provide them all the evidence they

3256
01:55:49,910 --> 01:55:48,000
would possibly want tomorrow and all

3257
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:49,920
that glory would go to them and we would

3258
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:51,440
be in the post-disclosure world but the

3259
01:55:54,390 --> 01:55:53,280
u.s would be holding a bag

3260
01:55:56,149 --> 01:55:54,400
um

3261
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:56,159
that can happen any time so but given

3262
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:57,920
that plus what's happening here

3263
01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:01,280
disclosure could easily happen very soon

3264
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:03,040
next week next month certainly at the

3265
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:05,119
end of the year but not necessarily by

3266
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:07,280
the united states

3267
01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:10,000
and long term it doesn't matter stephen

3268
01:56:14,070 --> 01:56:12,320
it doesn't matter long term believe me

3269
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:14,080
i don't care what nation does yeah i was

3270
01:56:17,109 --> 01:56:15,679
just going to say that i don't care i

3271
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:17,119
don't care who does it either as long as

3272
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:19,119
it gets done i i could care less if it

3273
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:21,760
was china or russia or anybody else

3274
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:23,360
england

3275
01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:24,480
you know

3276
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:25,520
yes

3277
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,040
short term though

3278
01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:29,520
as an american citizen it's hard for me

3279
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:31,920
not to have some care and concern yeah

3280
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:34,080
because the the impact on the united

3281
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:35,840
states if we're not the first disclosure

3282
01:56:40,470 --> 01:56:38,159
nation is going to be significant

3283
01:56:42,310 --> 01:56:40,480
and uh it may not be in the best

3284
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,320
interest of the world in other words the

3285
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:44,800
us in spite of its many flaws might be

3286
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:46,159
the better nation to launch this

3287
01:56:48,790 --> 01:56:47,280
initially

3288
01:56:50,310 --> 01:56:48,800
i can make that case

3289
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:50,320
short term

3290
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:52,159
i can see the wisdom of it being the

3291
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:53,520
united states long-term it doesn't

3292
01:56:56,310 --> 01:56:54,719
matter

3293
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:56,320
now whether anybody else in the united

3294
01:56:59,910 --> 01:56:58,480
states washington dc believes that i

3295
01:57:01,109 --> 01:56:59,920
have no one i don't know but i'm sure

3296
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:01,119
there are i know there are plenty i'm

3297
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:03,040
sure that they have gained this they

3298
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,000
have game this this event

3299
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:08,239
uh eight ways to sunday they got some

3300
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:11,040
pretty powerful super computers head to

3301
01:57:16,070 --> 01:57:13,440
pentagon and elsewhere and i assure you

3302
01:57:18,629 --> 01:57:16,080
they have gamed the disclosure event and

3303
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:18,639
the contact event every which way you

3304
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:20,080
can look at it

3305
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:22,719
of course fully classified

3306
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:25,040
and secret but the idea that they

3307
01:57:29,669 --> 01:57:27,599
haven't done that is absurd

3308
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,679
these are very smart people

3309
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:31,840
sure i believe that they're not they're

3310
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:33,599
not idiots and so the idea that they

3311
01:57:37,270 --> 01:57:34,960
just well we just won't even deal with

3312
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:37,280
this until we have to no

3313
01:57:43,109 --> 01:57:40,719
so they know what they're going to do

3314
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:43,119
but the american people don't know what

3315
01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:45,360
they're going to do

3316
01:57:48,470 --> 01:57:47,119
and who

3317
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:48,480
who's going to help them with that

3318
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:49,840
there's not a lot

3319
01:57:54,070 --> 01:57:52,000
a lot of people that are ready to help

3320
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:54,080
them with that but there are some i

3321
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:56,159
consider myself one of them

3322
01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:58,080
and i'll do the best i can

3323
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,599
well i'm going to i want to thank you

3324
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:01,840
for taking the time to uh to do this

3325
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:04,000
interview it's been eye-opening and

3326
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:06,480
revealing and you've been on my list of

3327
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:08,159
people to talk to forever so i could

3328
01:58:11,510 --> 01:58:09,840
check that off my list thank you very

3329
01:58:13,990 --> 01:58:11,520
much i can't thank you enough for taking

3330
01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:14,000
the time to inform both me and my

3331
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:17,280
listeners of all that you're up to

3332
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:18,719
i appreciate it stephen keep up the good

3333
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:20,320
work happy to come back in the future we

3334
01:58:25,750 --> 01:58:22,320
shall get disclosure as they sometimes

3335
01:58:29,050 --> 01:58:25,760
say one podcast at a time oh awesome

3336
01:58:33,669 --> 01:58:29,060
thank you thank you so much my friend

3337
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:33,679
[Music]

3338
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:35,440
well my friends

3339
01:58:41,589 --> 01:58:38,320
that music means that our time here on

3340
01:58:43,750 --> 01:58:41,599
the midnight hour show is running short

3341
01:58:45,830 --> 01:58:43,760
i want to thank you for joining us

3342
01:58:47,350 --> 01:58:45,840
here on the midnight hour

3343
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,360
and remind you

3344
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:49,760
that new episodes of the midnight hour

3345
01:58:57,830 --> 01:58:53,040
show premiere every week at midnight

3346
01:59:00,550 --> 01:58:57,840
right here exclusively on the fringe fm

3347
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:00,560
my name is stephen cambion reminding you

3348
01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:03,599
that disclosure just may come

3349
01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:05,199
but they're not just going to give it to

3350
01:59:09,970 --> 01:59:07,679
us we might have to take it from them

3351
01:59:35,990 --> 01:59:09,980
good night folks

3352
01:59:38,260 --> 01:59:36,000
[Music]